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Old 07-12-2013, 06:19 PM   #61
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How will it cut down on solo passes?
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:33 PM   #62
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How will it cut down on solo passes?
For class? Think about it.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:04 PM   #63
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After looking at the NHRA Stock Index's here's what i found:

AAA/S, AA/S, BB, & CC both Stick & Auto Have Same Index.

A-F stick -auto Only .05 difference.

G stick -auto .10 difference

H stick-auto .15 difference

I, J, & K .10 difference

L & M 0 difference

N & O .05 difference

P, Q & R .10 .15 .10 difference

T 0 difference

U, V & W .20 .25 .25 difference

So, in my opinion, looks like you can combine All of the Higher Class Cars up until F.
Of Course The Stick Cars Have To Add A Few Pounds.
G thru K you can keep Stick & Auto Seperate Or Make The Stick Cars Add A Few
More Pounds.
From L- T some are the same index & some are .05- .10 different.
And Last But Not Least: U, V & W can't be combined because of the big difference.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:08 PM   #64
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If you really want to cut the number of classes and make it actually count, in Stock, get rid of the 1/2 pound weight breaks at the top, and roll the FWD cars into the regular classes. That will create a lot more heads up races and cut down on a lot more solo passes than combining sticks and automatics will.

Of course, there will be much moaning, wailing, gnashing of teeth, etc, especially from the FWD people.
Take my Class (DF/S) for example and compare it to T/SA
DF/S 19 pound class; 15.60 Index (Nat'l record was 14.72)

T/SA 19 pound class; 14.40 Index

Looks pretty good (for the real T/SA cars)...
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:17 PM   #65
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Can you tell i'm bored.

Looking at Nitro Joe's 2012 Stats, Here's another observation:

Stock Elim. Only: Total Cars: 1,577

AAA thru E: 760 Cars
F thru E/FS: 797 Cars

How 'bout: Stock: AAA-E stick or auto same index
JR. Stock: F - E/FS 1 lb. wt. breaks

Maybe Only Run Class Elim. At Indy.

Let the Fireworks Begin.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:42 PM   #66
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The FWD stick and auto classes are already combined . Took 3 hits and weight added before my auto FWD was able to compete with the stick FWD car . In my case the index is 17.45 25 lbs and 16.65 24 lbs.for the RWD car. 87 lbs less weight will not pick me up 8 tenths to compete with the RWD cars. There wil be a big difference in the lower class cars if combined.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:18 AM   #67
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never mind...
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:25 AM   #68
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If you really want to cut the number of classes and make it actually count, in Stock, get rid of the 1/2 pound weight breaks at the top, and roll the FWD cars into the regular classes. That will create a lot more heads up races and cut down on a lot more solo passes than combining sticks and automatics will.

Of course, there will be much moaning, wailing, gnashing of teeth, etc, especially from the FWD people.
Another good proposal. One way or the other, the number of classes needs to be reduced while increasing the level of competition. If nobody believes an increase in heads-up competition is bad, they have never watched any of the drag race TV shows. Nobody wants to watch a staggered race.
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Old 07-13-2013, 07:33 AM   #69
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Take my Class (DF/S) for example and compare it to T/SA
DF/S 19 pound class; 15.60 Index (Nat'l record was 14.72)

T/SA 19 pound class; 14.40 Index

Looks pretty good (for the real T/SA cars)...
As in the past, no one suggested rolling the FWD cars in without adjusting their factors.
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Maybe Only Run Class Elim. At Indy.
For the love of every thing that class racing is, why would you ever suggest that?
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