Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser - Page 6

1320racer · 09-10-2024, 10:37 AM

Nope, telling it like it is, the TRUTH and the FACTS!

What those guys did in no way effected 99.99% of those posting here and when those guys stage their car again, 99.9% of those posting here will not be in the other lane EVER!

Jeff Stout · 09-10-2024, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Nope, telling it like it is, the TRUTH and the FACTS!

What those guys did in no way effects 99.99% of those posting here.

Including you?

1320racer · 09-10-2024, 10:47 AM

Correct but unlike most of the comments here, I applauded those guys, they played the gray area of the rule book and will continue to do so!

As the OP stated...

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Originally Posted by Joseph Lily

Much more successful to cheat and win and pay the fine.

Frank Castros · 09-10-2024, 11:32 AM

You willingness to cheat to win displays a total lack of integrity and says much about your character as a man.

1320racer · 09-10-2024, 11:35 AM

As previously stated...

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros

No doubt, because you're incapable to winning straight up.

You can say the same about many of your heros and competitors

Larry Hill · 09-10-2024, 11:35 AM

My disappointment is with the punishment or lack of.

1320racer · 09-10-2024, 11:41 AM

why?

The NHRA fined them as they saw fit, docked them points and changed the pulley size. Racing goes on!!

But

1. It doesn't effect you.
2. you don't race that class.
3. you have no say in how the NHRA conducts business.

There are no victims here only willing participants.

That said, I've learned long ago that we are here for a good time, not a long time and I'm not going to waste my time, my life trying to change things I think are wrong, especially if it doesn't effect me directly!

James Perrone · 09-10-2024, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer

why?

The NHRA fined them as they saw fit, docked them points and changed the pulley size. Racing goes on!!

But

1. It doesn't effect you.
2. you don't race that class.
3. you have no say in how the NHRA conducts business.

There are no victims here only willing participants.

That said, I've learned long ago that we are here for a good time, not a long time and I'm not going to waste my time, my life trying to change things I think are wrong, especially if it doesn't effect me directly!

Yes this does affect us
Nhra has gotten soft as they explained that there not looking to throw out people
Here?s the problem Ed
Rule is rules they should be followed
The old standard was you got some time off for blatant illegal offenses
6 months to one year
Nhra is not policing at that standard anymore
So is the same standard for us common folks ?
Who pay professional engine builders to make sure we are good
The factory on x and shootout classes are sportsman classes
I feel bad for anyone who lost to these cars that were caught
Carry on

1320racer · 09-10-2024, 02:17 PM

James, while I agree with your comments about the NHRA, we'll agree to disagree that this particular rules infraction in this class and NHRA's response to it, effects you.

That said, I don't feel bad for anyone that lost to these guys/cars, as I stated, there are no victims here only willing participants. Do you think the next time they are in the opposite lane anyone of their competitors is going to refuse to run them? The answer is not one!

Mike Gray · 09-10-2024, 03:06 PM

I'm more confused, did they make larger pulleys or just claim the wrong engine?
Both are wrong and is not a gray area but cheating. One can be "oops used wrong note" the other is blatant in your face cheating to win and deserves a much harsher penalty.

NHRA Technical Specifications
For
2019 Chevrolet Motors

Issued: 1/26/19 PC
Revised: 2/14/19 PC 1/1/20 PC, 2/12/2020, 1/1/21, 2/12/2020, 1/5/2021, 4/23/21, 6/29/2021, 12/3/21, 12/16/21, 9/18/22, 1/1/2023

HP Disp C.R. Ind. Make Model/Transmission Manifold R.R. Lifter Head Notes

600 350 12.50 Supercharged Magnuson 60-02-00-015 1.80 H/R 66.0 2,3,6,7,A

630 350 12.50 Supercharged Magnuson 60-02-00-015 1.90 S/R 66.0 2,4,6,7,A

Notes

3 = Supercharged Magnuson pn# 50-00-26-002 3.350 inch pulley, lower pulley 8.00, jackshaft pulley 32 teeth, rotor pulley 34 teeth

4 = Supercharged Magnuson pn# 50-00-26-002 3.350 inch pulley, lower pulley 8.00, jackshaft pulley 34 teeth, rotor pulley 32 teeth

09-10-2024, 10:37 AM	#51
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,170 Likes: 111 Liked 588 Times in 289 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser Nope, telling it like it is, the TRUTH and the FACTS! What those guys did in no way effected 99.99% of those posting here and when those guys stage their car again, 99.9% of those posting here will not be in the other lane EVER! Last edited by 1320racer; 09-10-2024 at 10:59 AM.

09-10-2024, 11:32 AM	#54
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,820 Likes: 2,304 Liked 2,397 Times in 877 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser You willingness to cheat to win displays a total lack of integrity and says much about your character as a man.

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09-10-2024, 11:41 AM	#57
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,170 Likes: 111 Liked 588 Times in 289 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser why? The NHRA fined them as they saw fit, docked them points and changed the pulley size. Racing goes on!! But 1. It doesn't effect you. 2. you don't race that class. 3. you have no say in how the NHRA conducts business. There are no victims here only willing participants. That said, I've learned long ago that we are here for a good time, not a long time and I'm not going to waste my time, my life trying to change things I think are wrong, especially if it doesn't effect me directly! Last edited by 1320racer; 09-10-2024 at 11:50 AM.

09-10-2024, 02:17 PM	#59
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,170 Likes: 111 Liked 588 Times in 289 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser James, while I agree with your comments about the NHRA, we'll agree to disagree that this particular rules infraction in this class and NHRA's response to it, effects you. That said, I don't feel bad for anyone that lost to these guys/cars, as I stated, there are no victims here only willing participants. Do you think the next time they are in the opposite lane anyone of their competitors is going to refuse to run them? The answer is not one! Last edited by 1320racer; 09-10-2024 at 02:22 PM.

09-10-2024, 03:06 PM	#60
Mike Gray Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 565 Likes: 260 Liked 611 Times in 162 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser I'm more confused, did they make larger pulleys or just claim the wrong engine? Both are wrong and is not a gray area but cheating. One can be "oops used wrong note" the other is blatant in your face cheating to win and deserves a much harsher penalty. NHRA Technical Specifications For 2019 Chevrolet Motors Issued: 1/26/19 PC Revised: 2/14/19 PC 1/1/20 PC, 2/12/2020, 1/1/21, 2/12/2020, 1/5/2021, 4/23/21, 6/29/2021, 12/3/21, 12/16/21, 9/18/22, 1/1/2023 HP Disp C.R. Ind. Make Model/Transmission Manifold R.R. Lifter Head Notes 600 350 12.50 Supercharged Magnuson 60-02-00-015 1.80 H/R 66.0 2,3,6,7,A 630 350 12.50 Supercharged Magnuson 60-02-00-015 1.90 S/R 66.0 2,4,6,7,A Notes 3 = Supercharged Magnuson pn# 50-00-26-002 3.350 inch pulley, lower pulley 8.00, jackshaft pulley 32 teeth, rotor pulley 34 teeth 4 = Supercharged Magnuson pn# 50-00-26-002 3.350 inch pulley, lower pulley 8.00, jackshaft pulley 34 teeth, rotor pulley 32 teeth __________________ Mike 7570 A/SA Last edited by Mike Gray; 09-10-2024 at 03:15 PM.