"7" Plymouth's You Just Had to Have.

[john oliverio]

Jeff, it was the 4spd B5 Blue car. We bought it in 72

[Paul Ceasrine]

Jeff,
I didn't know the 290's came standard with the 3.54.
Forgot about this one though.
In 1968, a Javelin also ran in J/Stock.
Odd, the 290 AMX ran in K/Stock, as well as the 66' Chevy II Nova
283/220HP.
I'm not sure which engine was in the Javelin. If the car was heavier than the AMX, then the engine could have have been a 343?
PC

[Paul Ceasrine]

Tom,
The "B" List,
1) 1967 Belvedere II R/O Hemi, 4-speed
2) 1971 Cuda Hemi, convertible, Shaker hood, 4-speed
3) 1970 Cuda 440 6-barrel, Shaker Hood, 4-speed, w/4.10 Dana
4) 1970 GTX 440 6-barrel, automatic, w/Air Grabber, w/4.10 gears
5) 1970 340 Duster, 4-speed, w/3.91 gears
6) 1964 Belvedere 426-S Street Wedge, automatic, w/4.10 gears
7) 1970 Cuda AAR 340 6-barrel, 4-speed, w/3.91 gears
PC

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by john oliverio

Jeff, it was the 4spd B5 Blue car. We bought it in 72

My friend Kelly bought that car from you. Boy, that car has some stories to tell!

[Paul Ceasrine]

R/T,
The fastest A-Body production (non-race car)
These A-bodies are listed with the available options.
The "M"-Code was a 'Special Car Order'. Production numbers list #360 produced and/or #343. No one knows for sure.

69' 440 Cuda, fastback, (A-727 automatic transmission only).
Came standard with 3.55 gears, the 3.91 and 4.10 were both options.
10" Drum brakes standard
Car weight #3279. The car had 197 lbs. of more weight in the nose, than the 340 Cuda..
The exhaust system was still somewhat restrictive, despite an improved
driver side cast iron exhaust manifold.
No power steering, manual only. The bolt pattern was still the smaller
5-bolt/4" bolt pattern. Wheels 14" x 5 1/2", available with only
E-70" x 14" Red-streak tires.
You did not have to order this car with the Formula 'S' package, as it came through with the heavy-duty suspension package.
(Heavy-duty torsion-bars (.89" thickness 120# rated, white stripe label), Heavy-duty front sway bar,(15/16" thickness), Firm-Ride 1" shocks, Heavy-duty 6-leaf rear springs, and Sure-Grip rear-end.
Car Life Magazine tested 13.89 @ 103.2 mph
Major problems off the line, no traction, due to nose weight and small
width tires.
With 4.10 gears and good traction, with a capable driver,
13.35's @ 108 mph.
In 1969, with 7" slicks, they would be classed in C/SA (8.50-8.99 wt/hp).
1969 C/SA National Record; 12.24 @ 114.06 (Dave Duell, 1963 Dodge Model #440 station wagon 426/425HP Stage II Max-Wedge)
PC

[Paul Ceasrine]

R/T,
The quickest 273/235HP Commando (HiPo) car was the
1965 Valiant V-200, 4-speed, with the optional 3.91 Sure-Grip gears for the late-year 8 3/4" rear.
The car weight was #2714, which was the lowest for the 273/235HP available cars. In 1965, the Mopars came through with a 'Hurst' shifter and linkage-mechanism as standard.
The special single-pipe exhaust system, came with a large diameter 2 1/2" "Y" pipe with free-flowing bends, a 2 1/4" straight through exhaust pipe, and special low-restriction/high-flow Hemi-style muffler (which was virtually hollowed out from the factory), and a special resonator unit tail-pipe extension with rectangular-shaped (2 1/2" x 5") chrome tipped end.
Car was capable of 15.20's @ 93 mph right off the dealer lot.
The V-200 identification, was the 'V" on the trunk lid, center of front grille, and "V-200" signature name-plates on the front fender of the full-length upper body side moldings.
The V-200 came through with lower body side moldings (between the front and back wheel-wells), bright metal roof gutte-rails, as well as a better grade carpeting, better seat upholstery, cushion arm rests, temp, oil and amp guages, as well as full-wheel covers
The cars wt/hp was 11.55 and it fell into D/S for 1965.
Bone stock, it would be highly competitive in D/S for 1965.
1966 = E/S
1967 = D/S
1968 = H/S
1969 = I/S
1970 =J/S
PC

[bigshow2966]

Originally Posted by Chris DeGidio

I know what you mean....I have a 70 383 4-speed Road Runner.

It's sad that everyone goes apeshyt over the '71 Hemicuda convertible because there are only 11 accounted for.

There are only 3 '70 Hemi Roadrunner convertibles accounted for, they are a much nicer looking car, but very few people care.

B bodies don't get no love.

[Paul Ceasrine]

bigshow,
I would agree.
I think the 71' Hemi Cuda convertible has "Jumped the Shark".
If you owned one, could you really drive it?

An interesting B-Body, which I liked.
1969 Sport Satellite, convertible, 383/330HP 4-speed.
Up-grade interior w/bucket seats and console.
Silver-gray with black top and Magnum wheels.
You could sneak them in G/Stock in 1969.
A nice Sunday cruiser, with the wife and kids,.or with Giada Delaurentis
"Everyday Italian"
PC

[HEMIDARTDAVE]

A while back, I had a 70 Coronet 500 conv with factory 383 HP and 4 speed, 391 8 3/4 rear. Normally a guy would get either an R/T, or a regular conv with 318 or lopo 383.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by bigshow2966

It's sad that everyone goes apeshyt over the '71 Hemicuda convertible because there are only 11 accounted for.

There are only 3 '70 Hemi Roadrunner convertibles accounted for, they are a much nicer looking car, but very few people care.

B bodies don't get no love.

Your right. My friend Kelly bought the '71 HEMI 4-speed 'Cuda convertible from John Oliverio in 1987, at the height of that muscle car era in terms of value.
Kelly brought it to the families Plymouth dealership in the cover of darkness and hid the car from view in a far corner.
Kelly started getting calls about his ownership of the car which he denied and told everybody a joke was being played on them.
You see, they were so valuable then that Kelly was worried the car would get stolen and placed on a shipping container to Japan or some other port, never to be seen again.
It was such a "joy" to own, he sold it. Of course he made a profit. But the point is he didn't even want to acknowledge ownership, much less drive the car.
And of course he should have kept it. Ultimately, the car changed hands a few times and sold at the height of the second wave of muscle car blue chip transactions, for several million dollars. In fact, it ended up back in Arizona less than 2 miles from my house owned by a big time HEMI E-Body collector (forgot his name) who actually drove the car. In fact he let Kelly drive it from Phoenix to Las Vegas for the Mopars @ The Strip venue. In fact, the car was driven more than once across the state. So at least it got to strut its stuff (finally!).
I know this last guy sold it as he was trading "up" that niche market. One day he pulled the plug and all those cars lost value as fast as a house of cards...which is all that market was to begin with.