A990 Super Stockers - Page 53

Steve Stasko · 10-09-2020, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hemitime

Thanks Steve , I have asked this question before on other sites and no one would answer for some reason . I had wondered if it was the Sox and Martin nostalgia car , mystery solved ! Where is it now ?

Chicago area last I knew. That's been about ten or so years though? I really quit keeping up on a lot of this stuff a few years ago.

DeuceCoupe · 10-12-2020, 10:05 PM

Did any of the A990 cars (or 1964 Hemi cars for that matter) race in NHRA with a SINGLE Quad Hemi?

Reason I ask is I'm trying to find a combo that would have fit the Wt/HP=7.00-7.49 class back then.

All the Hemi cars are too light, W/P=6.xx, and all the MaxWedge cars are too heavy, W/P=7.56 or more.

For example, McCandless won SS/D=7.00 class at 1969 Indy.
Drag News just says "64 Dodge", no detail. I thought his cars were 65's anyway.

Mancini 64 Dodge won SS/DA=7.00 class also at 69 Indy, with Wren as R/U, 64 Plymouth.

Then Costa won SS/CA=7.00 class at 71 Indy, says 65 Plymouth, again no detail.

The factored dual quad race hemi A990 cars are too light for this class, they ran a class up in the W/P=6.50 class, so I wondered what engine these guys had in there to run W/P=7.00 class.

See this other thread (pg 5, 8, 9, 10) for some relevant discussion:
http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...=20986&page=10

rickseeman · 10-14-2020, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

Did any of the A990 cars (or 1964 Hemi cars for that matter) race in NHRA with a SINGLE Quad Hemi?

I think the confusion is coming because several years ago the NHRA started letting 65's (and I guess 64's) run with 1 4 bbl. And I believe this is in Stock. As far as I know, in the previous 45 or so years it was always Super Stock with 2 4 bbls on the crossram. I think Jim Hale has run the 1 4 bbl configuration. You could call him for an explanation. My hat is off to Jim. He's got to be 150 years old and still racing!

Steve Stasko · 10-14-2020, 05:27 PM

It's legal in Super Stock as well. I believe Rick Johnson was running the single four combination on his '64 Dodge when he won Brainerd a few years back.

You're correct though, the single four "Nascar" deal is a newer addition...last 15 or so years?

Do you have Mr. Costa's first name? The name Costa is ringing a bell, but I'm drawing a blank. Could the year of the vehicle be a misprint? I know the '65 cars were running B in the early 70's, but were in C by the end of the decade.

DeuceCoupe · 10-14-2020, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

It's legal in Super Stock as well. I believe Rick Johnson was running the single four combination on his '64 Dodge when he won Brainerd a few years back.

You're correct though, the single four "Nascar" deal is a newer addition...last 15 or so years?

Do you have Mr. Costa's first name? The name Costa is ringing a bell, but I'm drawing a blank. Could the year of the vehicle be a misprint? I know the '65 cars were running B in the early 70's, but were in C by the end of the decade.

Steve,
Thanks again for your reply on the other thread here:
http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...=20986&page=10

Paul Costa won SS/CA=7.00 class at Sep 71 Indy.
Doesn't give city/state just 11.52 at 120.48mph
OK the other sheet in Drag News says
Paul Costa
Livonia, MI

Also, NO YEAR GIVEN on Costa car, I don't know why I guessed 65 but could easily be a 64 car. Maybe that solves the mystery.

The single quad setup sounds like a "new addition" so likely the cars running 1969-71 were all dual quads.

Maybe the bogus letter made them legal as of 1969 race year but not before that?

Steve Stasko · 10-15-2020, 10:13 AM

Paul Costa had a '68 Road Runner. There's a photo of the car in the Petersen archive stuff. Plain color, no fancy paint, Super Tricks. The National Dragster results show him in a '68 Plymouth, with the car number, #1527.

As far as the cars made legal in 1969, correct, they were not legal before that. Now everything is legal...go figure. Want to build a '64 Polara 500 convertible with a Nascar Hemi? Have at it!

DeuceCoupe · 10-15-2020, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

Paul Costa had a '68 Road Runner. There's a photo of the car in the Petersen archive stuff. Plain color, no fancy paint, Super Tricks. The National Dragster results show him in a '68 Plymouth, with the car number, #1527.

As far as the cars made legal in 1969, correct, they were not legal before that. Now everything is legal...go figure. Want to build a '64 Polara 500 convertible with a Nascar Hemi? Have at it!

Steve,
Thanks again.
I found the picture
https://archive.petersen.org/pages/p...php?ref=405232

I don't have all the National Dragster sheets so the sheet I have doesn't have the make or year of car on it for 71 Indy results. Have had to track them down one by one.

I just spent $100 on the Drag News CD set, nice stuff but I thought it would have more nationals results in it. Not much.

Looking for the full results sheets from

69 Sprint TX Superstock
70 Spring TX SS & S
70 Summer PA SS & S
71 Pomona Superstock
71 Spring TX SS & S
71 Summer NJ SS & S
If anybody has those, Tom Kaasch has been very helpful posting some of the other years.
A long journey of history but trying to capture it from those that were there. My 1st 1/4 mile was 1975 and the era was over by then.

McodeMike · 02-16-2023, 09:26 AM

Does anyone know a roger collins from illinois area? Had a dodge a990 in the 90’s. Thanks!

Gary Smith · 03-02-2023, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Bennett

Does anyone have any information about this car? It was for sale at an IHRA Nationals in St Louis back in the mid 70s and I came very close to buying it.

I didn't know enough about those cars at the time to check it out properly so I have no idea if it was a factory car or a home built.

I'm a little late posting on this but I believe John & Dave Wolfe campaigned that car at least until '80 or '81 pretty sure it was a real one.

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Adger Smith · 05-26-2023, 03:03 PM

DeuceCoupe, from Nitro Joe's 2022 year end stats
SS/CA 10.05 9.644 -0.406 426 Mark Norris '64 Belvedere 1964 Plym 426 425 460 CE 1 D42 NOBLE
Mark Norris is a friend of mine and I know a little about the history of this car. Mark runs the car pretty much in bracket mode. Mark has a Drag Pack that is capable of 1.00 under.
It is a Jim Hale car built by "Joe Smith"
It has been campaigned as a single 4 bbl Hemi
Jim Hale built his current SS/DA hemi car based off the cage and chassis of Marks SS/CA

10-12-2020, 10:05 PM	#522
DeuceCoupe Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 271 Likes: 97 Liked 47 Times in 43 Posts	Re: A990 Super Stockers Did any of the A990 cars (or 1964 Hemi cars for that matter) race in NHRA with a SINGLE Quad Hemi? Reason I ask is I'm trying to find a combo that would have fit the Wt/HP=7.00-7.49 class back then. All the Hemi cars are too light, W/P=6.xx, and all the MaxWedge cars are too heavy, W/P=7.56 or more. For example, McCandless won SS/D=7.00 class at 1969 Indy. Drag News just says "64 Dodge", no detail. I thought his cars were 65's anyway. Mancini 64 Dodge won SS/DA=7.00 class also at 69 Indy, with Wren as R/U, 64 Plymouth. Then Costa won SS/CA=7.00 class at 71 Indy, says 65 Plymouth, again no detail. The factored dual quad race hemi A990 cars are too light for this class, they ran a class up in the W/P=6.50 class, so I wondered what engine these guys had in there to run W/P=7.00 class. See this other thread (pg 5, 8, 9, 10) for some relevant discussion: http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...=20986&page=10 Last edited by DeuceCoupe; 10-13-2020 at 09:45 PM.

10-14-2020, 05:27 PM	#524
Steve Stasko Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Western PA Posts: 433 Likes: 7 Liked 249 Times in 129 Posts	Re: A990 Super Stockers It's legal in Super Stock as well. I believe Rick Johnson was running the single four combination on his '64 Dodge when he won Brainerd a few years back. You're correct though, the single four "Nascar" deal is a newer addition...last 15 or so years? Do you have Mr. Costa's first name? The name Costa is ringing a bell, but I'm drawing a blank. Could the year of the vehicle be a misprint? I know the '65 cars were running B in the early 70's, but were in C by the end of the decade.

10-15-2020, 10:13 AM	#526
Steve Stasko Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Western PA Posts: 433 Likes: 7 Liked 249 Times in 129 Posts	Re: A990 Super Stockers Paul Costa had a '68 Road Runner. There's a photo of the car in the Petersen archive stuff. Plain color, no fancy paint, Super Tricks. The National Dragster results show him in a '68 Plymouth, with the car number, #1527. As far as the cars made legal in 1969, correct, they were not legal before that. Now everything is legal...go figure. Want to build a '64 Polara 500 convertible with a Nascar Hemi? Have at it!

02-16-2023, 09:26 AM	#528
McodeMike Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 7 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: A990 Super Stockers Does anyone know a roger collins from illinois area? Had a dodge a990 in the 90’s. Thanks!

05-26-2023, 03:03 PM	#530
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,418 Likes: 518 Liked 775 Times in 293 Posts	Re: A990 Super Stockers DeuceCoupe, from Nitro Joe's 2022 year end stats SS/CA 10.05 9.644 -0.406 426 Mark Norris '64 Belvedere 1964 Plym 426 425 460 CE 1 D42 NOBLE Mark Norris is a friend of mine and I know a little about the history of this car. Mark runs the car pretty much in bracket mode. Mark has a Drag Pack that is capable of 1.00 under. It is a Jim Hale car built by "Joe Smith" It has been campaigned as a single 4 bbl Hemi Jim Hale built his current SS/DA hemi car based off the cage and chassis of Marks SS/CA __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)