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Old 12-20-2011, 09:39 PM   #41
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I thought the rule was and is “Any rocker arm permitted.” ?
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:45 PM   #42
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NHRA has not issued any rule clarification, as of today. I would not suggest to anyone that they buy anything until NHRA produces a clearly written rule. One thing every racer should learn about NHRA rules: Get it in writing from Glendora if you want to be sure it is legal.

Even then it could be different the next time you go through tech.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:56 PM   #43
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Until it is fully clarified and there is some sort of a list I would wait to make a purchase. The rule as it is, is too vague. Jim


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Old 12-21-2011, 11:56 AM   #44
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I talked to Tim Cole yesterday and the understanding is stock configeration, stock ratio. there will no shaft style rockers for BB/SB. Ford, Chyrsler, AMC if they came with shfts you can run the shaft system.

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Old 12-21-2011, 09:45 PM   #45
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I talked to Tim Cole yesterday and the understanding is stock configeration, stock ratio. there will no shaft style rockers for BB/SB. Ford, Chyrsler, AMC if they came with shfts you can run the shaft system.

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This is pretty much what I posted it would be a while ago, however, IT"S NOT IN WRITING YET! which makes it open to each individual tech guy's interpretation. Just a warning. You can bet there will be an accepted list. It's not like roller rockers are going to give you 20 horsepower so don't be to quick to run out and buy them. Be safe rather than sorry (and poorer). Jim

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Old 12-22-2011, 06:46 AM   #46
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Their must be a goal when NHRA change the rules,,, and i think that the goal must be like this:
Better easier and less money for the racer.
Easier for the tech to do inspections (= less money for NHRA)

This goals should alwayes be their , and be the main thing when the change a rule. And in that case the could always explain to us race WHY.

So is this goal heir with the rocker arms rule ?

The racers : Easier to find ? Less Money ? Better stronger ?

The tech : Check ONLEY valve lift as per the rule book with Zero lash.,, thats it = Easier.
Stock style rockers ,, Studs for the studs like Chevy and shaft for the shaft , like Mopar, use what ever ration we whant, but it must be Stock valvelift.

So for fun,,, look at this rocker arms rule from this GOALS ,,, and see what we came up to.
In my world then i think this is a GOOD rule change !!

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Old 12-22-2011, 08:50 AM   #47
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I asked three questions to the NHRA tech depart in California a week of so ago.
Are roller rockers allowed = YES
What ratio = THE RATIO ON THE/YOUR BLUE PRINT SPEC
Are aluminum rockers allowed = YES
These questions were,of course,for stock elim.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:43 AM   #48
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Consider this guys; the ratio on most aftermarkets is stamped on them, and if it doesn't match the specs, it probably won't pass even if the cam passes. And it don't seem so complicated to me; if you got shaft rockers like mopar, don't change the shafts, just the rockers: Studs, keep the configuration, don't machine the head for small shafts etc, And if your unmarked rockers are 1.6 and the spec calls for 1.5, don't be surprised if you need to replace your cam for the 1.5. Basic math (I think). I don't see nothing sinister here. However I'm sure someone will show me the error of my ways; but I'm used to it cause I been married 46 years.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:50 AM   #49
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My understanding is that NHRA is building jigs to check ratios.

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Old 12-22-2011, 11:54 AM   #50
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My understanding is that NHRA is building jigs to check ratios.

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Somehow I doubt that. They'd need one jig for each engine produced and legal for Stock Eliminator. They'd need at least 7 copies of each jig, one for each division. That's at a bare minimum.

An accepted rocker list is much more likely. Especially since a jig that fits one brand of 1.5:1 rocker arm for a small block Chevy may or may not fit another brand. And that is just one engine of dozens.
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