Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'

[Paul Ceasrine]

Why would Chrysler go through all the trouble to make an illegal
SS/EA car,,,,,,,,,,and purposely lose if they made it to the
Class Finals,,,,,,,,

And if everyone knew it was a 'cheater car', you would think the NHRA techs
would have gotten wind of it,,,,,,,and DQ'd the car, before it ever hit the
staging lanes at INDY in 1970..

Back then,,,a simple P & G gauge test would answer the question as to whether
a 512 cubic inch Hemi was installed.

And, a simple lift of the rear deck lid,,,,and most good techs would be able to tell if there was added weight.

Stories of a lead-filled wing weighing 150 lbs........Really,,,,,,,,

pc

[Bob Rice]

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose

I'm not a GM guy but I heard that there were 17 units built (from old sources) of the1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS6 convertibles total built...and I don't know when the first production of them were first built, but I am curious if they were legal according to NHRA rules, (50 units)...ooooh, it looks like someones here is stirring the pot a little bit, lol.

How many 70-71 Hemi Cuda convertibles did Chrysler build?
Bob Rice

[CycloneFE]

Originally Posted by Bob Rice

How many 70-71 Hemi Cuda convertibles did Chrysler build?
Bob Rice

Less than what I have seen on Barrett-Jackson.LWS(laced with sarcasm)

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Why would Chrysler go through all the trouble to make an illegal
SS/EA car,,,,,,,,,,and purposely lose if they made it to the
Class Finals,,,,,,,,

And if everyone knew it was a 'cheater car', you would think the NHRA techs
would have gotten wind of it,,,,,,,and DQ'd the car, before it ever hit the
staging lanes at INDY in 1970..

Back then,,,a simple P & G gauge test would answer the question as to whether
a 512 cubic inch Hemi was installed.

And, a simple lift of the rear deck lid,,,,and most good techs would be able to tell if there was added weight.

Stories of a lead-filled wing weighing 150 lbs........Really,,,,,,,,

pc

I dont think many knew the car was bogus at that time. I only heard about it when I was at the York nostalgia show a few years ago when Jack was there. Maybe it was BS and maybe it was not??

[BadBanana]

Ray's Chevelle was a great class car. Of course, that weight brake later got put into SS/FA and the 427 Camaro's became Chevy's entry in SS/EA,
Ray was a good friend, as well as the whole Truppi-Kling group, Ralph Truppi, who I considered a best friend, past a couple of years ago, and I didn't find out about it until the Gators in 2010.
I first met them, Ralph, Tommy Kling and Ray when they ran in F/S class against the original Bad Banana, owned by Ted Hartman (which I drove). They had a 58 Chevy 348 that ran in the class and we ran against them and Gere Stahl, in his 56 Chevy from Cordia Chev. in East Haddem, CT in 1964 when we set the class record. Ralph, Tommy and ray then built a car just like the Bad Banana and called it the terrible Tangerine.
Those were the greatest days for Stock ans Super Stock in my opinion.
Dave Colbert

[Rich Erickson]

Indy 1970 Richard Charbonneau

[Phillip marvetz]

Dave Wren told some of us at lunch about Chrysler asking him to build a 71 Cuda convertible to go after Ray.

[Paul Ceasrine]

Maybe just as good a running SS/EA 1970 Hemi Superbird,,,,,,,
Tim Richards in the Karl Gould car.

Tim won the SS/EA Class at the 1970 Summernationals at York US30 Drag-O-Way.

[Paul Ceasrine]

Sox & Martin,,,,,,,,,May 1970,,,,,Super Stock Magazine Nationals, @ York US30 Drag-O-Way
SS/E,,,,,,1970 Hemi Superbird

Were they looking for Ray Allen too,,,,,,,,
The SS/E National Record got down to 11.10 in 1970
The SS/EA National Record got down to 11.27 in 1970

Notice,,,,,,,'no vinyl top',,,,,,,,,which all Plymouth Superbirds came with,,,,,,

[Hemi Moose]

Originally Posted by Bob Rice

How many 70-71 Hemi Cuda convertibles did Chrysler build?
Bob Rice

I knew someone was going to ask this question, do you really want to know the production numbers, about 18 units of 70 Hemicuda convert's total, and about 11 units of 71 Hemicuda convert's total...But it looks like NHRA just lumped all the cars together anyway, all of the Chevelle hardtops, coupes, & convertibles, or all of the Cuda hardtops, coupes, & convertibles, or all of the Mustang fastbacks, coupes, & convertibles all built for different SS/ classes, etc.