Anyone here race an inline six? - Page 5

Joe Toller · 01-14-2009, 10:58 PM

I decided I want a six...I just can't stop thinking about a six. I know it doesn't make the best sense to some, but it excites me to try it. I even have a local sponsor who would kick in more if I did the six, because "it's not that boring bellybutton crap".
It appears there are only 2-3 200 Fords out there, so this looks like exciting unchartered territory...IF the Fairmont would truly be a V-car. It may be nuts, but it also may be a chance for greatness. Plus that car benefits from Fox-body goodies and I already have a Fox-body 8.8 rear axle.
I talked to the guy with the Aspens, might be able to scoop up a couple of them very cheaply, and the wrecking yard here has slant sixes and F-bodies abound.
I could go GM, but no one has a decent pre-70 GM that I could stuff a 230 into.

I'm still in planning, but for sure it will be a six; it seems like there's alot of parity as well as a decent amount of cars running V, so someday I would have a shot at some heads-up action. That would be awesome.

The Rambler needs floorpans for sure, so I will put it on the backburner. Maybe the six becomes the stepping stone into a higher class V8 car...

Thanks again for everyone's help. I never realized there was this much thought and science into this...I think I was up all last night researching various things, and I was digging around my cars in the snow all afternoon!

Joe Toller · 01-14-2009, 11:22 PM

So, is V/SA basically Slant Sixes, Fords, GM 230's and carbed 231 V6's? Anything else frequent this class? I'm still waiting for my rulebook to arrive, so I'm going off of known combinations and their factor...

Dion Hildebrandt · 01-14-2009, 11:42 PM

"Thanks again for everyone's help. I never realized there was this much thought and science into this...I think I was up all last night researching various things, and I was digging around my cars in the snow all afternoon "

you think that was a lot of work? just wait till you start building, and then get the car running, and then tring to at least run your index, and then etc. etc. etc. you get the idea! lol!!!

Joe Toller · 01-15-2009, 12:48 AM

I am a glutton for punishment. I can't wait!

treessavoy · 03-03-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Lee

early darts, valiants and cudas are all "A" bodies

The A body 8 3/4 w2ere found only in high HP V8 '66 to '75 darts, valiants, dusters, demons, and barracudas ('66 to '69 only), they are getting hard to find these days.

Jim

treessavoy · 03-03-2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Turner

I'm guilty - '72 Maverick, 200"/C4....V/SA. Has been exclusively an IHRA deal but I hear the darkside calling!!

Dave,

Would a '64-'66 valiant with a 225 and a 4-speed be a viable car for V/S, it would still have the 1bbl carb but it's a pretty light combo.

Jim

Real Racer · 03-03-2009, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy

The A body 8 3/4 w2ere found only in high HP V8 '66 to '75 darts, valiants, dusters, demons, and barracudas ('66 to '69 only), they are getting hard to find these days.

Jim

A body Mopar did not get 8 3/4 untill 1967. They all used a 7 1/4 Spicer through 1966.
A body 8 3/4 through 1970 had 5 on 4 inch bolt circle axles with 7/16 studs.
74 was the last year for 8 3/4 in A body. They went to 8 1/4 in 75 and up.

Mark Yacavone · 03-03-2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy

Dave,

Would a '64-'66 valiant with a 225 and a 4-speed be a viable car for V/S, it would still have the 1bbl carb but it's a pretty light combo.

Jim

It would have to be a station wagon or convertible. Those cars did run good back then with the 4 speeds, but 135 hp is kinda high with a 1 bbl

treessavoy · 03-05-2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real Racer

A body Mopar did not get 8 3/4 untill 1967. They all used a 7 1/4 Spicer through 1966.
A body 8 3/4 through 1970 had 5 on 4 inch bolt circle axles with 7/16 studs.
74 was the last year for 8 3/4 in A body. They went to 8 1/4 in 75 and up.

The '66 D/Dart and late year 235hp cars had the 8 3/4 I bought one from the local Dodge dealer to replace the 7 1/4 that blew about every time I power shifted the 4 speed and that was with a 225, your right the small bolt pattern is least desirable and the '75's got the new 8 1/4.

Thanks for straightening that out, wouldn't want bad info out there.

Jim

Philip Saran · 03-05-2009, 04:22 PM

In response to someone's question about "A" body 8-3/4 housings,
yes they are harder to find, yes they will cost more to buy, BUT
you can take a 8-3/4 out of a truck, a "B" body or "C" body and
have it cut down to stock "A" body measurements and then just
add aftermarket axles and either a "sure-grip' (lock-rit) or a spool.

I've had 3 of the cut down truck and "C" body housings done in
the last few years. The shop I use charges about $250 including
new spring pads. If your a good welder I suppose you could do
it yourself with a cut off saw and make a jig to hold it all in place.

01-14-2009, 10:58 PM	#41
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? I decided I want a six...I just can't stop thinking about a six. I know it doesn't make the best sense to some, but it excites me to try it. I even have a local sponsor who would kick in more if I did the six, because "it's not that boring bellybutton crap". It appears there are only 2-3 200 Fords out there, so this looks like exciting unchartered territory...IF the Fairmont would truly be a V-car. It may be nuts, but it also may be a chance for greatness. Plus that car benefits from Fox-body goodies and I already have a Fox-body 8.8 rear axle. I talked to the guy with the Aspens, might be able to scoop up a couple of them very cheaply, and the wrecking yard here has slant sixes and F-bodies abound. I could go GM, but no one has a decent pre-70 GM that I could stuff a 230 into. I'm still in planning, but for sure it will be a six; it seems like there's alot of parity as well as a decent amount of cars running V, so someday I would have a shot at some heads-up action. That would be awesome. The Rambler needs floorpans for sure, so I will put it on the backburner. Maybe the six becomes the stepping stone into a higher class V8 car... Thanks again for everyone's help. I never realized there was this much thought and science into this...I think I was up all last night researching various things, and I was digging around my cars in the snow all afternoon!

01-14-2009, 11:22 PM	#42
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? So, is V/SA basically Slant Sixes, Fords, GM 230's and carbed 231 V6's? Anything else frequent this class? I'm still waiting for my rulebook to arrive, so I'm going off of known combinations and their factor...

01-14-2009, 11:42 PM	#43
Dion Hildebrandt Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 383 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? "Thanks again for everyone's help. I never realized there was this much thought and science into this...I think I was up all last night researching various things, and I was digging around my cars in the snow all afternoon " you think that was a lot of work? just wait till you start building, and then get the car running, and then tring to at least run your index, and then etc. etc. etc. you get the idea! lol!!! __________________ Dion Hildebrandt 6009 STK H/SA

01-15-2009, 12:48 AM	#44
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? I am a glutton for punishment. I can't wait!

03-05-2009, 04:22 PM	#50
Philip Saran Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Parker, CO. Posts: 728 Likes: 165 Liked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Anyone here race an inline six? In response to someone's question about "A" body 8-3/4 housings, yes they are harder to find, yes they will cost more to buy, BUT you can take a 8-3/4 out of a truck, a "B" body or "C" body and have it cut down to stock "A" body measurements and then just add aftermarket axles and either a "sure-grip' (lock-rit) or a spool. I've had 3 of the cut down truck and "C" body housings done in the last few years. The shop I use charges about $250 including new spring pads. If your a good welder I suppose you could do it yourself with a cut off saw and make a jig to hold it all in place. __________________ Phil Saran Parker, Colorado