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Thanks Paul, have seen 2dr posts, Signet hardtop and convertible (1 convertible only) 235hp cars.....but never a 4dr -235hp model......funny they never popped out a few 235 hp station wagons......would be a cool piece, for sure..
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I own a Pacifica does that make me a mopar man.LOL
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I know what you mean....I have a 70 383 4-speed Road Runner.
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One of my fantasy builders All time wish Mopar? 69 1/2 Road Runner 440/ 6Bbl , 4 speed , 4.10 Dana 60, white post coupe. That'll set you back in the seat in low gear!
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My first "hot" car was a '71 Challenger with a built 340. I've also had a '68 GTS 340 auto and a '70 Swinger 340 4-speed w/ 3.55's and the rubber carpet.
That Swinger was bone stock and I remember being able to have it in 4th gear at about 35 MPH and it would pull cleanly all the way to redline, no clutching or anything. My Challenger showed many a 454 and other big blocks the tail lights. Love those 340's! ![]()
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Mark,
The 273/235HP Commando is allowed in the 65' and 66' Valiant Station wagons in the NHRA books, But it was not available from the factory. The 273/180HP 2-barrel was the top of the line for the wagons. The 4-speed transmission and 8 3/4" posi-rear were both available options, though. The early Plymouth ads recommended the 8 3/4" posi as a safety package, not a performance package rear. It was said to be the 'right choice for slick roads, to keep your family safe". Also recommended, the "Hurst" shifter and 4-speed transmission, "to ensure proper gear selection in difficult driving conditions". Not one mention of performance. Funny wording in those 'safety first brochures' WJ You can see the "Prince Valiant" 4-door Valiant on the Dover site. Under the Centolanza's thread. Lou Centolanza also ran a 65' Valiant V-200 273/235HP in 66', in E/SA. In 67' it ran in D/SA and ran on the record 13.54. Quick little A-Bodies for that time. They ate up the 65' 327 SS Malibu cars. PC Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 07-14-2010 at 03:20 PM. |
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I sure would love to see a correctly restored / blueprinted (blueprinted, no NHRA upgrades) of a 290 4-speed 3.54 equipped '68 AMX vs the best 273/235 vehicle with the same gears!
The first AMX I owned was like that. It had 106K on the engine, never had the valve covers off and would easily bark 'em on the 3rd gear shift (stock tires with hubcaps). These 290's had a 2.64 low trans gear as standard. Compared to the 273/235, the 283/220 and the 289/225's that I have driven, I would say the AMX was faster. No track times to back it up, just street time.
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Jeff,
I can give some general history. In 1968, my father raced my mothers 67' Cuda 273/235HP Commando 4-speed w/3.23 posi. Completely stock, with about 6000 miles on it. Ran in J/Stock and ran an honest best ET of 16.16. At the same, time, a new 68' AMX 290 4-speed was running in K/Stock. A new car. Not sure of the gears, but I would bet 3.15's. Ran around the same times, low 16.00's. PC |
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Those are respectable times on both; should have been a good heads up drag race! And I say 16.00's for a pair of little engines as you and I know most of your "bread & butter" 390-400 CID cars were usually a 15.20-15.50 ET.
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