Crate Motor Class

[TGould]

Hey Ken, I remember those years well. I won Pure Stock Eliminator ,with the Corvair, at The High Altitude Nationals in 1968. Ran an AMX in the final.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

Just so we all understand each other.....

What you want, are the NHRA rules written as what you perceive as correctly.... """ ( HEY Bob .. you may want to rewrite this sentence )""""

You are not the magnetic center of the Universe, as hard as it is for you to believe..... ( .... I am not a magnet )

The planets do not revolve around you.... ( yes they do.. in fact revolve around all of us )

By definition you are a contrarian who will fight to the death that your incorrect conclusion, is correct.... (the Correct Contrarian def: a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion)

You happen to man without a country.... """ ( HEY Bob .. you may want to rewrite this sentence )""""

You are dressed up with no place to go... ( Yes I have clothes on )

I guess that I will also have to move on..... ( ??)

See you around the pits, wait you have no place to race with your car as it sits now, so I guess that it will be my bad luck to keep coming across your inane posts on ClassRacer...

I don't get you guys?
What is wrong with asking NHRA to adopt Pure Stock ?
You don't get things done or changed without asking and making a good faith effort.

In the meantime got options with S/SS associations, local racing, NMCA, ECIRS, other organizations considering IHRA cars.
In fact can race in Canada with their races under the NHRA Banner.

How are these bad options expressed by your disparaging comments..!

I am not upset !!
Living the Life and having FUN !
My way !

D

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Dan, those are factory race cars. They come with those engines. Not "crate motor" cars. Crying about it on the internet won't get NHRA to add those IHRA classes. Your not going to change it. They don't need you/them.

Build a car to fit, run someplace else, or go bracket racing. Hard for me to understand someone not simply building a car that could run anywhere to begin with. E T Bracket cars can, and cheaply.

Not all fast NHRA class cars have $6000.00 transmissions. Not all fast NHRA class cars have Warren Engines (or equivalent) professionally built engines. It's all more expensive for people that have to write big checks for everything.

Ed;
I am not crying about it but having a conversation.
You guys are up in arms with all kinds of dirging comments.

The reason I went to Jeff because he does a good job at a fair price.
My local builder did not build Stocker engines and wanted to get it right.
Cost was the same except having to transport it.

As for $6000 transmissions...if you have one of those fast cars.
You are working the edges of performance and the cost that goes along with it.

Top Stocker Racers and FS at $100,000.00 + price tag better have one of those crack running trannys.

As for going to other venues... I will !!
Why do you make it sound like it is a bad thing?

D

[Dave Noll]

Originally Posted by dan fahey

i don't get you guys?
What is wrong with asking nhra to adopt pure stock?
D

Nothing!!

[KEN BUGAJ]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

So, you're asking for Pure rules, but to be put into real Stock, where YOU think it should be?
Oh boy..
Where's Perrone when we need him? LOL

Perrone ! Watch Out ! That guy is from the Island and his name ends in a vowel !! He could be CONNECTED ! !

[Birch motor cars]

Originally Posted by KEN BUGAJ

Perrone ! Watch Out ! That guy is from the Island and his name ends in a vowel !! He could be CONNECTED ! !

I really don't see what the big deal is about letting the IHRA class cars run with the NHRA class cars. All you guys keep telling us to go bracket race. Um I'm really not sure if you guys are aware but that's all your doing now is bracket racing. So after reading all these complainers blogs all I can come up with is the guys that claim they have 50k to 100k in a car are pretty much scared of being trailered by a 20k dollar car running a crate motor abiding by the same rules as the 100k dollar cars have. Remember at the end of the day all it is is a high dollar bracket race. For the dilution comments, there are crate motor cars with a lot of money thrown at them as well. Why can't we all just race together and have fun. That's what it's all about. Stop being hateful.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Birch motor cars

I really don't see what the big deal is about letting the IHRA class cars run with the NHRA class cars. All you guys keep telling us to go bracket race. Um I'm really not sure if you guys are aware but that's all your doing now is bracket racing. So after reading all these complainers blogs all I can come up with is the guys that claim they have 50k to 100k in a car are pretty much scared of being trailered by a 20k dollar car running a crate motor abiding by the same rules as the 100k dollar cars have. Remember at the end of the day all it is is a high dollar bracket race. For the dilution comments, there are crate motor cars with a lot of money thrown at them as well. Why can't we all just race together and have fun. That's what it's all about. Stop being hateful.

Boy, You and Fahey must be sharing talking points offline now.
First of all, nobody in the world is afraid of racing "Birch" .They don't even know who you are.
LMAO..
Where's that award?..
Oh, here it is:

[Mike Schwartz]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

No, the fight is about using showroom available engines in showroom available bodies in STOCK Eliminator.

Do 8.0/170mph "Stockers" that have no VIN and can never be titled, licensed or insured for street use have a showroom available engine in a showroom available body?

[Mike Schwartz]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

because it dilutes the class. As it stands right now (with the exception of a few paper cars), the motor in the car was available in the car. Have you ever tried to explain a SS/GT car to a casual fan? at least with stock and SS(traditional) its alot easier to explain. A crate motor stocker is barely a step removed from a bracket car

There are already approx. 3,400 different engine+year combos in the Classification Guide, according to what I have found at classracerinfo.com. How many more would be added if crate motors were introduced? Maybe 15-20, each of which will have the exact same specs no matter what car in which they were installed.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

Do 8.0/170mph "Stockers" that have no VIN and can never be titled, licensed or insured for street use have a showroom available engine in a showroom available body?

No, they don't.
But don't even dare trying to beat me over the head with that one again.
Instead, check the threads, going back about 9 years to see what I had to say about that caper.