2010 CJ Testing Video - Page 4

Jim Wahl · 04-22-2010, 08:02 PM

This is getting more and more ridiculous. You have to wonder how much money has changed hands for NHRA to look the other way! Jim

SSDiv6 · 04-22-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

This is getting more and more ridiculous. You have to wonder how much money has changed hands for NHRA to look the other way! Jim

They are not looking the other way...they are just approve combinations that are submitted by the OEM under the premise of the OEM meeting the numbers for specialty built cars as shown in the rule book. Just a way for the OEM to use the rule book to their advantage.

Sharx · 04-22-2010, 09:09 PM

I think Ford just learned how to play the game. If you get a chance to read the article, do so.

I don't have a dog in the fight, I'm just a poor old bracket racer that likes to run the 90 classes once and awhile. But I would love to have two new CobraJets. One to put away and another to wear out those of you stockers that refuse to admit your bracket racing.

Jeff Lee · 04-23-2010, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharx

I think Ford just learned how to play the game. If you get a chance to read the article, do so.

I don't have a dog in the fight, I'm just a poor old bracket racer that likes to run the 90 classes once and awhile. But I would love to have two new CobraJets. One to put away and another to wear out those of you stockers that refuse to admit your bracket racing.

Then at the next bracket race, you wouldn't mind pulling a piston for us, would you?

Jim Wahl · 04-23-2010, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Then at the next bracket race, you wouldn't mind pulling a piston for us, would you?

Oh! Snap! I got your back Jeff! Jim

Don Kennedy · 04-23-2010, 08:33 AM

Sharx:

FYI The only situation that Stock and Super stock have that is bracket racing is the shoe polish. A bracket car does not have engine specs, a bracket car cannot set a national record , a bracket car does not have a national index that they can't dial below that index, a bracket car never has to tear down to make sure that their engine specs is legal , a bracket car is not limited to the size of the rear tires , a bracket car never has to qualify at a race , bracket car does not have a set engine combination to run in that year of race car . I could go on,but you get my point .lol

S.E. Buchanan · 04-23-2010, 11:10 AM

Don:

Well said.

S.E.

Sharx · 04-23-2010, 11:25 AM

Believe me when I say I'm not cracking on all the other things that you guys do to qualify and such but it just kills me when a couple of our local "stock and super stock guys" won't come to the local track cause that's just "bracket" racing. Like it's beneath them.

Then they wonder why they can't drive the big end to save their rear. Sure seems to me that most of the successful stock and super stock racers are darn good bracket racers, and they know when they hit the track all that piston changing and qualifying, weight, nine inch tire and fifteen pages of the rule book don't mean diddly. They are bracket racing. Does anyone have an idea how you get good at bracket racing??? PRACTICE.

As much as this board pisses and moans about the CobraJets and Drag Pack Challengers I can't believe so many know so little about them. Like the C-2 transmission.

Again I have tons of respect for the things you do in stock, but like I said on the track your just another bracket racer with shoe polish. And you guys getting worked up about it proves my point that most wont admit it.

I'll step out of your pool now that I pee'd in it. lol

Mike Carr · 04-23-2010, 11:27 AM

I was going to reply to "Sharx", but Don beat me to it, and he is right on. See, Don and I *CAN* agree on something

My post on another topic 4/06/10:

Scales. Fuel check. Heads-up runs. Qualifying. Teardowns. Class Wins. The possibility of being a DNQ. National Records.

I have had runs disallowed due to fuel and weight issues. I've DNQ'd at Indy before (2000). I've torn down for setting National Records. All while racing Stock Eliminator. Never done any of the above while bracket racing. Indexes too. In bracket racing, no one tells you you can't dial slower than (insert ET here--except for class ET breaks). Otherwise, in Stock, I could have run my daily driven 13-14 second '95 Camaro in D/SA and been OK, as long as it met the safety requirements. And in brackets, you don't have people telling you what blocks, heads, transmissions, spec numbers, etc are, and what you have to run, and you can't be DQ'd in Super Pro because of a cylinder head issue.

About the only similarity between Stock and brackets is a two dollar bottle of shoe polish.

Mike Delahanty · 04-23-2010, 11:31 AM

Link to photos from the test session.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/annou...ts/news101.asp

04-22-2010, 08:02 PM	#31
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video This is getting more and more ridiculous. You have to wonder how much money has changed hands for NHRA to look the other way! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

04-22-2010, 09:09 PM	#33
Sharx Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 29 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video I think Ford just learned how to play the game. If you get a chance to read the article, do so. I don't have a dog in the fight, I'm just a poor old bracket racer that likes to run the 90 classes once and awhile. But I would love to have two new CobraJets. One to put away and another to wear out those of you stockers that refuse to admit your bracket racing.

04-23-2010, 08:33 AM	#36
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video Sharx: FYI The only situation that Stock and Super stock have that is bracket racing is the shoe polish. A bracket car does not have engine specs, a bracket car cannot set a national record , a bracket car does not have a national index that they can't dial below that index, a bracket car never has to tear down to make sure that their engine specs is legal , a bracket car is not limited to the size of the rear tires , a bracket car never has to qualify at a race , bracket car does not have a set engine combination to run in that year of race car . I could go on,but you get my point .lol __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

04-23-2010, 11:10 AM	#37
S.E. Buchanan Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 37 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video Don: Well said. S.E.

04-23-2010, 11:25 AM	#38
Sharx Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 29 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video Believe me when I say I'm not cracking on all the other things that you guys do to qualify and such but it just kills me when a couple of our local "stock and super stock guys" won't come to the local track cause that's just "bracket" racing. Like it's beneath them. Then they wonder why they can't drive the big end to save their rear. Sure seems to me that most of the successful stock and super stock racers are darn good bracket racers, and they know when they hit the track all that piston changing and qualifying, weight, nine inch tire and fifteen pages of the rule book don't mean diddly. They are bracket racing. Does anyone have an idea how you get good at bracket racing??? PRACTICE. As much as this board pisses and moans about the CobraJets and Drag Pack Challengers I can't believe so many know so little about them. Like the C-2 transmission. Again I have tons of respect for the things you do in stock, but like I said on the track your just another bracket racer with shoe polish. And you guys getting worked up about it proves my point that most wont admit it. I'll step out of your pool now that I pee'd in it. lol

04-23-2010, 11:27 AM	#39
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video I was going to reply to "Sharx", but Don beat me to it, and he is right on. See, Don and I CAN agree on something My post on another topic 4/06/10: Scales. Fuel check. Heads-up runs. Qualifying. Teardowns. Class Wins. The possibility of being a DNQ. National Records. I have had runs disallowed due to fuel and weight issues. I've DNQ'd at Indy before (2000). I've torn down for setting National Records. All while racing Stock Eliminator. Never done any of the above while bracket racing. Indexes too. In bracket racing, no one tells you you can't dial slower than (insert ET here--except for class ET breaks). Otherwise, in Stock, I could have run my daily driven 13-14 second '95 Camaro in D/SA and been OK, as long as it met the safety requirements. And in brackets, you don't have people telling you what blocks, heads, transmissions, spec numbers, etc are, and what you have to run, and you can't be DQ'd in Super Pro because of a cylinder head issue. About the only similarity between Stock and brackets is a two dollar bottle of shoe polish. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

04-23-2010, 11:31 AM	#40
Mike Delahanty VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,201 Likes: 0 Liked 275 Times in 54 Posts	Re: 2010 CJ Testing Video Link to photos from the test session. http://www.fordracingparts.com/annou...ts/news101.asp