Diapers for stock - Page 4

W J · 02-10-2010, 10:38 AM

Dennis, are the diapers available for the new Ford CJ and Dodge Challenger cars yet? Late model Corvettes? Thanks. WJ

Don Kennedy · 02-10-2010, 12:28 PM

The reason some race cars need a diaper is because of the rules is a band aid for the real problem of oil down cleanup which should be the responsibility of the race track in my opinion .

The tracks are too cheap to buy a machine to clean up the oil downs

http://www.waynesindustrial.com/trackscrubber.html

this is one example of the machines ready to be used at a track. I have been at a lot of race tracks and they are still using the same brooms and butane torches that they used 25 years ago . Shame on them All the up dated rules have been made for the racers yet the tracks are still cleaning up their tracks the same way they did 25 or more years ago and I swear with the same tools . Every race track that runs under the NHRA banner should be required to have one of two power machines to clean up any oil downs this would make racing a lot quicker with the very simple solution buy the machines LOL

Now after saying that I would put one on my car maybe if it would fit but I don't think it would fit as my car sits very low in a 2005 Sun fire with a 455 SD Pontiac engine with headers right where any diaper would have to be bolted on . now if the diaper maker wants to make one and then fit it come on down . Remember my pan is very low so the diaper will have to be not hanging down at all

Steve1118 · 02-10-2010, 12:52 PM

"I heard the opposite from a division director. He said he had more down time for stock/superstock than any other class."

I'm afraid that I would have to see something from Mr. Division Director to back that up.

It makes you wonder how we ever made it without them for this past half century.

7820 · 02-10-2010, 02:09 PM

Don I can't imagine your car sitting any lower than my '65 tube chassis GTO and I do not have a ground clearance problem. I've had the diaper on for over a year and have raced at four different tracks and so far it has not rubbed on the ground.

Racer 6x64 · 02-10-2010, 02:37 PM

Hello my fellow racers.

I am not a Class Racer but I do drive a low 9 sec bracket car. The talk about the diaper situation is the same at all tracks and in all classes. I am by no means trying to say anything against a drivers choice to put a diaper on your car or not. I had a pretty bad crash at my home track in mid august last year as a rod decided to leave my engine via the oil pan.. If i had a diaper on the car most likekly I would have simply had a damaged engine. With all the oil flowing from the giant hole in my pan I got way way out of shape and stuffed it into the wall at 140 mph.

This is just my two cents on the fact that a diaper would have saved me a lot of money and would have hopefully prented a pretty serious crash. Just remember that you can have the best engine builder in the world, but they didn't build all the parts in that engine. If a rod cap breaks you will be going for a very unpleasant ride.

Have a safe and fun season.

W J · 02-10-2010, 02:49 PM

C.P. That is a eye-opening post, w/very positive reasoning for diaper installations on these racecars.....WJ

DIAPERMAN · 02-10-2010, 06:13 PM

Don you call me we can build a diaper that will work.I am glad to see good post on this lets get peoples ideas

Don Kennedy · 02-10-2010, 11:07 PM

this is waht i will do you show up install the diapher on My Super Stocker and make sure all is well with tech at a NHRA meet and i will pay you 1 and 1/2 times the orginal cost .

442OLDS · 02-10-2010, 11:10 PM

Not going to share my opinion on this,but

I can see the writing on the wall in LARGE CAPITAL LETTERS.

" Diapers will soon be required in Stock."

Hopefully when they are,some of the diaper manufacturers will pay contingency.
(If they make one for a 1970 Olds 442)

Ed Fernandez · 02-10-2010, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

this is waht i will do you show up install the diapher on My Super Stocker and make sure all is well with tech at a NHRA meet and i will pay you 1 and 1/2 times the orginal cost .

Don,just admit you don't want to put one on your car.You have more excuses than one of those crackheads on the Cops TV show for their bad behavior.

02-10-2010, 10:38 AM	#31
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock Dennis, are the diapers available for the new Ford CJ and Dodge Challenger cars yet? Late model Corvettes? Thanks. WJ

02-10-2010, 12:28 PM	#32
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock The reason some race cars need a diaper is because of the rules is a band aid for the real problem of oil down cleanup which should be the responsibility of the race track in my opinion . The tracks are too cheap to buy a machine to clean up the oil downs http://www.waynesindustrial.com/trackscrubber.html this is one example of the machines ready to be used at a track. I have been at a lot of race tracks and they are still using the same brooms and butane torches that they used 25 years ago . Shame on them All the up dated rules have been made for the racers yet the tracks are still cleaning up their tracks the same way they did 25 or more years ago and I swear with the same tools . Every race track that runs under the NHRA banner should be required to have one of two power machines to clean up any oil downs this would make racing a lot quicker with the very simple solution buy the machines LOL Now after saying that I would put one on my car maybe if it would fit but I don't think it would fit as my car sits very low in a 2005 Sun fire with a 455 SD Pontiac engine with headers right where any diaper would have to be bolted on . now if the diaper maker wants to make one and then fit it come on down . Remember my pan is very low so the diaper will have to be not hanging down at all __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

02-10-2010, 12:52 PM	#33
Steve1118 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Walton's Mountain Posts: 116 Likes: 2 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock "I heard the opposite from a division director. He said he had more down time for stock/superstock than any other class." I'm afraid that I would have to see something from Mr. Division Director to back that up. It makes you wonder how we ever made it without them for this past half century.

02-10-2010, 02:09 PM	#34
7820 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock Don I can't imagine your car sitting any lower than my '65 tube chassis GTO and I do not have a ground clearance problem. I've had the diaper on for over a year and have raced at four different tracks and so far it has not rubbed on the ground.

02-10-2010, 02:37 PM	#35
Racer 6x64 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 25 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock Hello my fellow racers. I am not a Class Racer but I do drive a low 9 sec bracket car. The talk about the diaper situation is the same at all tracks and in all classes. I am by no means trying to say anything against a drivers choice to put a diaper on your car or not. I had a pretty bad crash at my home track in mid august last year as a rod decided to leave my engine via the oil pan.. If i had a diaper on the car most likekly I would have simply had a damaged engine. With all the oil flowing from the giant hole in my pan I got way way out of shape and stuffed it into the wall at 140 mph. This is just my two cents on the fact that a diaper would have saved me a lot of money and would have hopefully prented a pretty serious crash. Just remember that you can have the best engine builder in the world, but they didn't build all the parts in that engine. If a rod cap breaks you will be going for a very unpleasant ride. Have a safe and fun season. __________________ C. P. 2015 Drag Pack Challenger FS/C

02-10-2010, 02:49 PM	#36
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock C.P. That is a eye-opening post, w/very positive reasoning for diaper installations on these racecars.....WJ

02-10-2010, 06:13 PM	#37
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock Don you call me we can build a diaper that will work.I am glad to see good post on this lets get peoples ideas

02-10-2010, 11:07 PM	#38
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock this is waht i will do you show up install the diapher on My Super Stocker and make sure all is well with tech at a NHRA meet and i will pay you 1 and 1/2 times the orginal cost . __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

02-10-2010, 11:10 PM	#39
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Diapers for stock Not going to share my opinion on this,but I can see the writing on the wall in LARGE CAPITAL LETTERS. " Diapers will soon be required in Stock." Hopefully when they are,some of the diaper manufacturers will pay contingency. (If they make one for a 1970 Olds 442)