Another cool stocker! - Page 4

Philip Saran · 10-31-2010, 01:05 PM

Didn't Don Studley and Al Etter run a 62 station wagon with the 383 two four
barrel carbs in E/SA back in the day out here on the west coast?

Rick Leininger Jr. · 10-31-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Saran

Didn't Don Studley and Al Etter run a 62 station wagon with the 383 two four
barrel carbs in E/SA back in the day out here on the west coast?

Yes they did.

Rick Carlson · 10-31-2010, 10:13 PM

Mid 70's, from Amarillo, Gary Doose had the "Supply Wagon" D/SA '62 Plymouth wagon
with the 383/343 horse engine. Then put in a Max Wedge for a few races to run in B/SA.
A great runnin' wagon.

Ed Fernandez · 10-31-2010, 11:12 PM

How about Tom Kreeber in John Shaul's Mr 413 car?That car is fast.

GTX JOHN · 10-31-2010, 11:58 PM

As memory serves: the 383/343 engine was a paper option only in 62 and produced through the help of Clay Smith Eng. in Buena Park Calif. The dual 4 option for the B engine appeared first in 1958 350 CI (Golden Commando) and continued for a number of years. It was a very mild Hyd. Lifter and had 1.60 ex. valves. The special solid lifter cam was designed and built by Clay Smith Eng. exclusively for the 343 HP and was about 284/484. It also spec'd. a 300J Head with closed chambers and 1.75 ex. valve. Shawn Langdon's grandpa George Stiegel who put the project together still runs Clay Smith Eng. I purchased a 62 Dodge Wagon F/SA with a vinyl roof covering about a ton of lead called the Orange Crate from a man named Pat Foley(sic), I " think" I stripped and took it to the dump in mid 70's. Now that the horsepower is lowered.....I wish I had left it in the darn back barn!

Jeff Lee · 11-01-2010, 02:18 AM

The car pictured on page one of this thread has "B/SA" on the windows, not "D/SA" (it's easier to decipher the rear window than the front window.).
D/SA would be a 383/343 option, B/SA would be the 413 as Travis noted previously.
I've long thought the 383/343 would be a great Superstock engine. Since it's an inline 2x4 intake a Weiand tunnel ram would do the trick pretty cheaply. Fit it under a '68 Hemi Dart / Barracuda scoop in the GT class (and I've not seen a conclusive answer on the body parts for a GT car yet).

FrankChastain · 11-01-2010, 06:28 AM

Ok Jimmy Parker fill in the blanks...FrankChastain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

These cars fell at 16.02 . That's why there were quite a few of them. Some are still around.
I t certainly wasn't for the glamor !

GTX JOHN · 11-01-2010, 02:05 PM

Jeff: See my post #21, Thanks

Jeff Lee · 11-01-2010, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

Jeff: See my post #21, Thanks

But your post #21 didn't clarify what class the car is running in, just the engine. By the tone of the posts that preceded and followed your post, I sense confusion by some over what class it is in with the continued reference to the 383/343 engine.

Barnstorm · 11-01-2010, 05:56 PM

If you wanted to run a 383/343 combo in a SS/AH car in GT, can you run the hood scoop?

10-31-2010, 01:05 PM	#31
Philip Saran Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Parker, CO. Posts: 728 Likes: 165 Liked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! Didn't Don Studley and Al Etter run a 62 station wagon with the 383 two four barrel carbs in E/SA back in the day out here on the west coast? __________________ Phil Saran Parker, Colorado

10-31-2010, 10:13 PM	#33
Rick Carlson Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Laurel Fork, VA, and the Blue Ridge Parkway Posts: 57 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! Mid 70's, from Amarillo, Gary Doose had the "Supply Wagon" D/SA '62 Plymouth wagon with the 383/343 horse engine. Then put in a Max Wedge for a few races to run in B/SA. A great runnin' wagon.

10-31-2010, 11:12 PM	#34
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! How about Tom Kreeber in John Shaul's Mr 413 car?That car is fast. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

10-31-2010, 11:58 PM	#35
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,733 Likes: 2,803 Liked 2,486 Times in 697 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! As memory serves: the 383/343 engine was a paper option only in 62 and produced through the help of Clay Smith Eng. in Buena Park Calif. The dual 4 option for the B engine appeared first in 1958 350 CI (Golden Commando) and continued for a number of years. It was a very mild Hyd. Lifter and had 1.60 ex. valves. The special solid lifter cam was designed and built by Clay Smith Eng. exclusively for the 343 HP and was about 284/484. It also spec'd. a 300J Head with closed chambers and 1.75 ex. valve. Shawn Langdon's grandpa George Stiegel who put the project together still runs Clay Smith Eng. I purchased a 62 Dodge Wagon F/SA with a vinyl roof covering about a ton of lead called the Orange Crate from a man named Pat Foley(sic), I " think" I stripped and took it to the dump in mid 70's. Now that the horsepower is lowered.....I wish I had left it in the darn back barn! Last edited by GTX JOHN; 11-01-2010 at 12:05 AM.

11-01-2010, 02:18 AM	#36
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! The car pictured on page one of this thread has "B/SA" on the windows, not "D/SA" (it's easier to decipher the rear window than the front window.). D/SA would be a 383/343 option, B/SA would be the 413 as Travis noted previously. I've long thought the 383/343 would be a great Superstock engine. Since it's an inline 2x4 intake a Weiand tunnel ram would do the trick pretty cheaply. Fit it under a '68 Hemi Dart / Barracuda scoop in the GT class (and I've not seen a conclusive answer on the body parts for a GT car yet). __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

11-01-2010, 02:05 PM	#38
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,733 Likes: 2,803 Liked 2,486 Times in 697 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! Jeff: See my post #21, Thanks

11-01-2010, 05:56 PM	#40
Barnstorm Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 186 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Another cool stocker! If you wanted to run a 383/343 combo in a SS/AH car in GT, can you run the hood scoop?