HP on monday

[Dwight Southerland]

Originally Posted by jaspdot

I only did what a lot times was done in the past, and I am sure it will happen again. I did not run to 1000 ft and dump!!!!!! I payed the price and will take my medicine. Now I am T car it is what it is, by the way I have been to the barn four times.

Great statement. Kudos.
I haven't figured out what is "cheating" about passing the scales. It just seems like savvy racing to me.

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Frank, I was specifically talking about the $6500 figure...That's all.
Having just tried to put something together on the cheap, I can't see a V8 car being built at this number.
Paul Wong and Billy covered the rest of it...

Mark you have a PM.

Captain Jack,
I wish you nothing but the best at Indy.l

[Adub464Q]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Great statement. Kudos.
I haven't figured out what is "cheating" about passing the scales. It just seems like savvy racing to me.

I only put this here, because it was brought to my attention several years back.


Race Procedures, Section 2, Page 10


WEIGHING OF VEHICLE/FUEL CHECK


Under no circumstances may a competitor reject scaling his or


her vehicle or fuel check. Any competitor who runs quicker than


any of his or her previous runs during the event in Top Fuel,


Funny Car, Pro Stock, Pro Stock Motorcycle, Top Alcohol


Dragster, Top Alcohol Funny Car, Pro Mod, Comp, Super Stock,


or Stock and fails to report to post-run inspection (scales or fuel


check) will be disqualified from the event. The event will be


charged against the competitor’s points events with a zero (0)


point counting toward the driver’s claimed races.






The only part of the wording I have a problem with is the first sentence, because what constitutes "Rejecting". I thought it was very common practice that if you went slower than a previous elapsed time (in qualifying), you could bypass the scales.

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by adub464q

i only put this here, because it was brought to my attention several years back.


Race procedures, section 2, page 10


weighing of vehicle/fuel check


under no circumstances may a competitor reject scaling his or


her vehicle or fuel check. Any competitor who runs quicker than


any of his or her previous runs during the event in top fuel,


funny car, pro stock, pro stock motorcycle, top alcohol


dragster, top alcohol funny car, pro mod, comp, super stock,


or stock and fails to report to post-run inspection (scales or fuel


check) will be disqualified from the event. The event will be


charged against the competitor’s points events with a zero (0)


point counting toward the driver’s claimed races.






the only part of the wording i have a problem with is the first sentence, because what constitutes "rejecting". I thought it was very common practice that if you went slower than a previous elapsed time (in qualifying), you could bypass the scales.

yep

[Ron Ortiz]

When NHRA refactored the Ford 302 and it put several combos into U/SA the whole racing world screamed "WRONG". People were predicting that the Ford would be a #1 qualifier at Indy, and it was. It was so obvious that NHRA made a huge mistake that every racer knew of it. It has been 2 years since their debacle and finally it is being refactored. Lets face it, NHRA's factoring system is broken to begin with, let alone trying to correct it. You have cars running so far under in U/SA for years that if they ever fell into an "A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, or K, there would be a mutiny and an attempted overthrow of the governing body.

NHRA's BOGUS COMBOS;
The Caddy, the Regals, the farm truck, the Banana car, the Cimmaron, and lets not forget all the new cars, heck they even had to form their own class (FS) it was so bogus. We are talking about cars that run way more than 1.5 under at ridiculous slow MPH.

You can't blame the racer who takes advantage of the situation, only one is to blame, NHRA.

I've been around long enough, even worked tech for NHRA, the people are great, the organization is great, the HP Committee though is not to bright, sometimes wonder if there is any cash incentives going around to get some ratings.

It does not matter how many times I have written NHRA with graphs, comparisons, cold hard facts, it falls on deaf ears. I do not write anymore, gave up long ago, waste of time.

I even remember when The Captains car was a T/SA when MJ ran it. Then one year it became a U/SA car, I was not to happy about that. Nothing in comparison to what has happened since then.

But enough of this whining, I am just waiting to see the new U/SA combo that can go 2.0 under, coming to a race near you soon. NHRA is due for another one.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA and I thought nitrous was enough.

[Billy Nees]

And just to put an exclamation point on this whole 302 thing, a creative Stock racer would already be changing the head castings and intake (not really rare or hard to find pieces BTW) having a .020 thou thicker head gasket made and showing up at Indy calling it a 75 and losing 14 HP. And for you "upper classmen" that might not understand, in U/SA, that's 280 pounds! That's the same amount of weight that I can remove from my old 6 cyl. Nova to move from V to U and it's worth a half of a second in my car.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

And just to put an exclamation point on this whole 302 thing, a creative Stock racer would already be changing the head castings and intake (not really rare or hard to find pieces BTW) having a .020 thou thicker head gasket made and showing up at Indy calling it a 75 and losing 14 HP. And for you "upper classmen" that might not understand, in U/SA, that's 280 pounds! That's the same amount of weight that I can remove from my old 6 cyl. Nova to move from V to U and it's worth a half of a second in my car.

Gee Billy - I've been called a lot of things but never "upper classmen" .......