Car classification guide Gen5 and Gen6 Camaro

[Tom P]

As delivered that 375hp 396 Camaro ran high 13's. Some racers have found a few tricks to get a bit quicker ET's...

[2Ton71]

Originally Posted by Charles Stewart

Actually you have in the guide for stock car classification, the 2011 to 2014 Ford Mustang coupe with a V6 and the 2015 with a 4 Cylinders turbo.

I had a 2013 3.7 V6 Mustang, and it ran 13.80s with just a tuner. Stock 3.33 gear and 6R80. I think it was roughly 3650lbs with me in it. (stock trim with heavy 19" wheels)

That combination is a natural N/SA at 3505 with driver. 13.00 index.

With headers, trans, converter, gear, and better tune, you'd be in the ball park of a little under.

Like one said, you can scoop these cars up cheap as flood cars or just worn out used. Possible dime rocket potential since there's plenty of aftermarket available for them you can get used, and it's nice these have the 8.8 already under them.

Decent compression ratio allowed as well. 12.48:1

[dragracerray]

Originally Posted by Charles Stewart

Actually you have in the guide for stock car classification, the 2011 to 2014 Ford Mustang coupe with a V6 and the 2015 with a 4 Cylinders turbo.

Thanks for the information Charles. It is good that V6's are covered for these years.

BUT, Blue Oval fans! There is nothing in the classification guide to cover any Ford car after 2019!! You guys need to be contacting Ford to get your specs to NHRA. Even the years between 2015 and 2019 stink. You are all set if you want to race a Focus but NOTHING ELSE is there. I hope someone steps up to get these specs to NHRA.
Merry Christmas, Ray

[Charles Stewart]

Originally Posted by 2Ton71

I had a 2013 3.7 V6 Mustang, and it ran 13.80s with just a tuner. Stock 3.33 gear and 6R80. I think it was roughly 3650lbs with me in it. (stock trim with heavy 19" wheels)

That combination is a natural N/SA at 3505 with driver. 13.00 index.

With headers, trans, converter, gear, and better tune, you'd be in the ball park of a little under.

Like one said, you can scoop these cars up cheap as flood cars or just worn out used. Possible dime rocket potential since there's plenty of aftermarket available for them you can get used, and it's nice these have the 8.8 already under them.

Decent compression ratio allowed as well. 12.48:1

You will find here a old post from JHeath regarding Steve Stickel M/SA 2011 Mustang. (Index is 12,85)

Originally Posted by JHeath

I noticed Steve Stickel has been running a 2011 Mustang 3.7 in M/SA at several D1 races, has run right around - .40 under, car looks good

[2Ton71]

Originally Posted by Charles Stewart

You will find here a old post from JHeath regarding Steve Stickel M/SA 2011 Mustang. (Index is 12,85)

Very Nice! I'll check it out

[bsimms89]

Originally Posted by dragracerray

Thanks Dyno. I am in a unique situation being that I work for GM so I will contact Chevrolet. I hope by Mopar and Ford buddies will do the same with their V6's. To me this is one of the most obvious on ramps of a young person to Stock Eliminator. Happy Thanksgiving! Ray

I've had a similar thought about some new combinations not listed. The camaro has the 2010 SS with the 376 @ 400hp listed. Since 2010-2013 were identical bodies someone could claim any of these years to be a 2010, but they do not have the convertibles in the class guide. The 2010 automatic SS coupe is listed as a shipping weight of 3,780lbs, a convertible would be 4,120lbs putting it into completely different classes. They would just have to add it as a 2011, 2012, or 2013, the engine specs would be identical to the 2010 coupe already in the class guide, they would just need the shipping weight info. They have a 2012 copo convertible in the class guide, but not an ss convertible anywhere.

[goinbroke2]

As far as the 3.7 ford engine, it's dohc/4v/alum head and block. From the factory, in a 2011 f-150, it shifts (from the factory) at 7000rpm. This is an awesome engine, can't believe it's the "base" to replace the 300 six!

Here is me racing it, put it in drive, let it shift itself.
(spoiler, I won!)

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by bsimms89

I've had a similar thought about some new combinations not listed. The camaro has the 2010 SS with the 376 @ 400hp listed. Since 2010-2013 were identical bodies someone could claim any of these years to be a 2010, but they do not have the convertibles in the class guide. The 2010 automatic SS coupe is listed as a shipping weight of 3,780lbs, a convertible would be 4,120lbs putting it into completely different classes. They would just have to add it as a 2011, 2012, or 2013, the engine specs would be identical to the 2010 coupe already in the class guide, they would just need the shipping weight info. They have a 2012 copo convertible in the class guide, but not an ss convertible anywhere.

In 2010 I purchased a BIW Camaro from Chevrolet. I forget who the engineer was that they put me with, but he wanted zero input from me. So, what I got was a combination that is not correct and nobody has built to date. I can tell you for a fact that a zero option Gen 5 Camaro SS is not that heavy. The head CC is also wrong.

I spoke with Chevrolet about convertibles on several occasions and was told flat out that they did not want to add them. The same goes for the 2014-15 Z28 and later Corvettes.

[bsimms89]

Originally Posted by GUMP

In 2010 I purchased a BIW Camaro from Chevrolet. I forget who the engineer was that they put me with, but he wanted zero input from me. So, what I got was a combination that is not correct and nobody has built to date. I can tell you for a fact that a zero option Gen 5 Camaro SS is not that heavy. The head CC is also wrong.

I spoke with Chevrolet about convertibles on several occasions and was told flat out that they did not want to add them. The same goes for the 2014-15 Z28 and later Corvettes.

That’s a shame, I have a 2012 convertible and have toyed with the idea of building it into a stocker and running my COPO in superstock, didn’t think it’d be that hard to get it added to the guide since all the engine specs are there already for the coupe, they literally would just have to give them the shipping weight