Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock! - Page 3

Chris DeGidio · 12-01-2007, 12:17 AM

Herb, Dad says to tell you and your Dad hello.

My mention of the 383 intake did what I wanted it to.Ray Charles will build my next engine.

RocketBlock · 12-01-2007, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by herbjr

Chris we know each other from 20 years ago. Dont give to much info as soon as Rocket tells his real name Ill chime back in. He is in left field. And yes a Ray Charles could tell the difference between the two blocks. Can you Rocket without tools just your eyes.

Herb Jr

Ray would feel around for the 1" x 2" machined pad cast into the block on the driver side between the deck and intake manifold. It is flat and faces straight up. Since I have eyes that see, I would just look in that direction. The factory marked this block pad with designations such as "HP" if it was a magnum engine. Sometimes you'll see a maltese cross that indicates non standard bearings or bore size from the factory. Sometimes the pad is blank. But this pad is only seen on the RB family and not the B family engine. Since your dad is in most of the old Direct Connection books he should be able to confirm to you that the B engine and RB engine are two distinct families as defined by Chrysler. These two families do not allow the interchanging of crankshafts, connecting rods, pistons, pushrods, or intake manifolds. . Hope I didn't leave anything out.
Herb, why would my name ad credibility to this subject? The material facts are right so there's no need for a debate. The rule book is clear on these material matters so there's no need for debate. The only room for debate is if NHRA should enforce this rule and if not, allow others to have the same advantages.

So I'm in left field? Which field are you in?

Speedracer · 12-01-2007, 12:51 AM

Not to change the subject,but I was wondering if it is legal to put a Dana rear end in an AMC Stocker?

Paul Precht · 12-01-2007, 01:03 AM

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Speedracer · 12-01-2007, 01:06 AM

If he is correct,which I believe he is,then how in the world has this been going on for so long?

Paul Precht · 12-01-2007, 01:24 AM

Just look the other way as the saying goes, Paul.

Jeff Lee · 12-01-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedracer

Not to change the subject,but I was wondering if it is legal to put a Dana rear end in an AMC Stocker?

The problem with you is you do not race in stock or superstock. By your posts here and everywhere it's obvious you do not have an understanding on the issues racers in this class must deal with. The rules will not "dumb down" to your level one day so you can jump in and race stock. So get over it. Since you have a grudge against me, start your own thread. Just quit mudding up everybody's discussions on things you obviously know nothing about. Tell you what, for $100 I will send you the letter from NHRA stating a Dana 60 is legal for use on AMC's in Stock. I'll even frame it for you.

Jim Wahl · 12-01-2007, 12:57 PM

Well said Jeff! The answer is YES Speedracer. It has been so for many, many years. NHRA rules are clear as mud! Jim

Real Racer · 12-01-2007, 08:31 PM

Where on the NHRA web site is all this information posted?

Other than what has been in the rule book for years about cross breading parts, where is there something official about RB and B Mopar engines from NHRA?

Speedracer · 12-01-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedracer
Not to change the subject,but I was wondering if it is legal to put a Dana rear end in an AMC Stocker?

The problem with you is you do not race in stock or superstock. By your posts here and everywhere it's obvious you do not have an understanding on the issues racers in this class must deal with. The rules will not "dumb down" to your level one day so you can jump in and race stock. So get over it. Since you have a grudge against me, start your own thread. Just quit mudding up everybody's discussions on things you obviously know nothing about. Tell you what, for $100 I will send you the letter from NHRA stating a Dana 60 is legal for use on AMC's in Stock. I'll even frame it for you.
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Jeff Lee 7494 SS
'70 AMX SS/H

So far,I don't think anyone has been given the scoop on this 440 block thing except RocketBlock.

Jeff Lee,
I don't have a problem with you at all.It is obvious that you have a passion for Super Stock and Stock Racing that not everyone has and I really admire and respect that.
RocketBlock and I are the ones that have had some issues before though.

Yes,I don't race in Stock. I gave it up several years ago after I could never get the car to run the index!

12-01-2007, 12:17 AM	#21
Chris DeGidio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 364 Likes: 8 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock! Herb, Dad says to tell you and your Dad hello. My mention of the 383 intake did what I wanted it to.Ray Charles will build my next engine. __________________ Nautilus Racing

12-01-2007, 12:51 AM	#23
Speedracer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock! Not to change the subject,but I was wondering if it is legal to put a Dana rear end in an AMC Stocker?

12-01-2007, 01:03 AM	#24
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 733 Likes: 359 Liked 327 Times in 121 Posts	Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock! bbbb Last edited by Paul Precht; 11-19-2012 at 10:24 PM.

12-01-2007, 01:06 AM	#25
Speedracer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock! If he is correct,which I believe he is,then how in the world has this been going on for so long?

12-01-2007, 01:24 AM	#26
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 733 Likes: 359 Liked 327 Times in 121 Posts	Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock! Just look the other way as the saying goes, Paul.

12-01-2007, 12:57 PM	#28
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 667 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock! Well said Jeff! The answer is YES Speedracer. It has been so for many, many years. NHRA rules are clear as mud! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

12-01-2007, 08:31 PM	#29
Real Racer Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 99 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock! Where on the NHRA web site is all this information posted? Other than what has been in the rule book for years about cross breading parts, where is there something official about RB and B Mopar engines from NHRA?

12-01-2007, 09:05 PM	#30
Speedracer Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mopar 440 racers - time to legalize that shortblock! Quote: Originally Posted by Speedracer Not to change the subject,but I was wondering if it is legal to put a Dana rear end in an AMC Stocker? The problem with you is you do not race in stock or superstock. By your posts here and everywhere it's obvious you do not have an understanding on the issues racers in this class must deal with. The rules will not "dumb down" to your level one day so you can jump in and race stock. So get over it. Since you have a grudge against me, start your own thread. Just quit mudding up everybody's discussions on things you obviously know nothing about. Tell you what, for $100 I will send you the letter from NHRA stating a Dana 60 is legal for use on AMC's in Stock. I'll even frame it for you. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 SS '70 AMX SS/H So far,I don't think anyone has been given the scoop on this 440 block thing except RocketBlock. Jeff Lee, I don't have a problem with you at all.It is obvious that you have a passion for Super Stock and Stock Racing that not everyone has and I really admire and respect that. RocketBlock and I are the ones that have had some issues before though. Yes,I don't race in Stock. I gave it up several years ago after I could never get the car to run the index! Last edited by Speedracer; 12-01-2007 at 10:21 PM.