Making Stock and Super / Stock Sellable - Page 3

Mile High · 03-10-2017, 09:51 AM

As a S/SS fan I like the idea. Maybe it would help the novice understand handicapped racing.

Jeff

cutta · 03-10-2017, 10:54 AM

Car Shows the friday night or morning of every race with some type of car warm up session in some type of public forum(ie bars, restaurants, movie theatres, car dealerships, walmarts, mall, etc).

No one likes racing at night but pushing the schedule further back on a Friday allows more people to get out to the track. Tulsa Raceway Park does this with their bigger races to help get fans in the gate.

Lets get into peoples homes, more on track and pit videos posted in one place on facebook, twitter, instagram, etc. These videos give people access to the personalities of sportsman racers. Vlog, Vlog, and Vlog more. Then everyone that is not doing video, can share the heck out of these things on those social media platforms.

Also, the other thing that the group of Sportsman racers may want to do is have an occasional fan appreciation/experience BBQ or even a bar meet up to hang with fans as well. Just my .02

Ed Wright · 03-10-2017, 12:43 PM

I liked running off the record, but car counts dropped big time when bracket racing came along. Slow guys went bracket racing, instead working on their stuff. Now, we all just mostly bracket race. Yawn.

4spdJohnny · 03-10-2017, 03:44 PM

The running all time trials and qualifying on the index or handicap start is something I've preached for a long time, is a no brainer, doesn't cost a dime, help people understand the sport, give drivers more seat time judging closing ratios etc. If I ever win the lottery (need to start playing lol) there are a ton of ways to promote our sport. It all comes down to getting fans/spectators interested. If the average person knew all the different back ground stories going on with even some of the racers, their cars, their weekend, etc Lots of David vs Goliath stories etc. Every race has lots of human interest stuff going on from racers helping racers, thrashing going on , etc Some good natured drama some not. But the average person doesn't know any of this...

Eric Merryfield · 03-10-2017, 04:09 PM

I like your idea Dwight re qualifying off the index.....I can't think of a single issue with it, drivers would like it, and it would likely make the AHFS work better.

I can here the announcer......T/SA Gremlin versus FS/C Copo......Merryfield gets a huge head start of 4 plus seconds..Merryfield's off in the straight six, is he eating a sandwinch while driving?.He's at the 1/8 mile..here comes Matyas...ooh nice wheelstand...Gremlin's way out ahead.....don't think Matyas can catch him.....at the stripe....the copo by .003 142 mph to 96 for the gremlin.....

Here is what it is now, and example of a LODRS race at epping:

Merryfield in the T/SA Gremlin versus Johny Gray's beautiful 69 A/SA Camaro. There off, huge wheelstand by Gray.........dead air......Gray runs a 10.05............3.75 seconds later I get to the stripe.....

Eric

Bobby DiDomenico · 03-10-2017, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Merryfield

I like your idea Dwight re qualifying off the index.....I can't think of a single issue with it, drivers would like it, and it would likely make the AHFS work better.

I can here the announcer......T/SA Gremlin versus FS/C Copo......Merryfield gets a huge head start of 4 plus seconds..Merryfield's off in the straight six, is he eating a sandwinch while driving?.He's at the 1/8 mile..here comes Matyas...ooh nice wheelstand...Gremlin's way out ahead.....don't think Matyas can catch him.....at the stripe....the copo by .003 142 mph to 96 for the gremlin.....

Here is what it is now, and example of a LODRS race at epping:

Merryfield in the T/SA Gremlin versus Johny Gray's beautiful 69 A/SA Camaro. There off, huge wheelstand by Gray.........dead air......Gray runs a 10.05............3.75 seconds later I get to the stripe.....

Eric

Eric,
I'm still watching! Tried to suggest qualifying in Div 3 using the indexes rather than heads up. Never went anywhere. Clearly WAY more interesting from a spectator point of view versus the current method.

The super classes are mentioned earlier, with them the first 1000' is probably not at all interesting to the spectators, the finish line is where the Super class action is but sadly there are no stands at the 1320 mark anywhere IIRC.

ALMACK · 03-10-2017, 05:29 PM

Great idea on the qualifying runs to use the index to stagger start.

As a racer, that gives us more practice during time runs because how often do you run someone during eliminations with almost the same dial as yourself ?

Ed Carpenter · 03-10-2017, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Adj. 1. sellable - fit to be offered for sale; "marketable produce" merchantable, vendable, vendible, marketable. salable, saleable - capable of being sold; fit for sale; "saleable at a low price"

Here's your thread for this subject.

Okay. I'll go first.
Make Ed F. marketing director..j/k

Seriously now , folks

I've noticed that whenever a slower FWD car gets a huge head start, half the fans (however many are there) will root for the tortoise, and the other half, for the hare.

However, watching them time trial at the same time is b-o-o-o-ring!
This is not a new idea.I wish I could give credit to however thought it up and posted it years ago, but anyway, why not use the indexes and stagger the tree accordingly?
Both drivers would get more practice this way. It doesn't take any longer to get both cars down the track and onto the return road, plus, it would much more watchable.
What is the down side , cuz I sure don't see it?

This should.happen. Ihra did it at a race I attended several years ago and it was great.

Carguy49 · 03-10-2017, 05:48 PM

Sounds very interesting. Handicapped qualifying would give more seat time in a race situation. What would it take to get it going? How many racers would like it?

Maybe Dwight or Mark (or someone else) should start a pole to see if it would fly or not.

Mike Jones · 03-10-2017, 07:51 PM

Great Idea!
can we petition for it?
I am putting together some pics and videos of my wagon from the last few years, to show a friend. After looking at some videos from qualifying, I have decided to use 1st round footage. It looks bad from a slow car perspective during qualifying, because the "race" is over before it starts.
This really seems like a "no- brainer". Can`t think of any reason not to do it.100% more spectator appeal.

Mike A114
P/SA

03-10-2017, 09:51 AM	#21
Mile High Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: My RV Posts: 218 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Making Stock and Super / Stock Sellable As a S/SS fan I like the idea. Maybe it would help the novice understand handicapped racing. Jeff __________________ Street legal 64 Falcon Sprint with 410W living in Texas. Stock - Super Stock fan

03-10-2017, 10:54 AM	#22
cutta Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 347 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Making Stock and Super / Stock Sellable Car Shows the friday night or morning of every race with some type of car warm up session in some type of public forum(ie bars, restaurants, movie theatres, car dealerships, walmarts, mall, etc). No one likes racing at night but pushing the schedule further back on a Friday allows more people to get out to the track. Tulsa Raceway Park does this with their bigger races to help get fans in the gate. Lets get into peoples homes, more on track and pit videos posted in one place on facebook, twitter, instagram, etc. These videos give people access to the personalities of sportsman racers. Vlog, Vlog, and Vlog more. Then everyone that is not doing video, can share the heck out of these things on those social media platforms. Also, the other thing that the group of Sportsman racers may want to do is have an occasional fan appreciation/experience BBQ or even a bar meet up to hang with fans as well. Just my .02 __________________ Adriel Paradise, Paradise Racing Team Driver/Crew Chief(at least my dad claims me to be) B.S. Mechanical Engineering, University of Arkansas

03-10-2017, 12:43 PM	#23
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Making Stock and Super / Stock Sellable I liked running off the record, but car counts dropped big time when bracket racing came along. Slow guys went bracket racing, instead working on their stuff. Now, we all just mostly bracket race. Yawn. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 03-10-2017 at 12:44 PM. Reason: Still can't type.

03-10-2017, 03:44 PM	#24
4spdJohnny Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Grand Forks ND Posts: 243 Likes: 506 Liked 137 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Making Stock and Super / Stock Sellable The running all time trials and qualifying on the index or handicap start is something I've preached for a long time, is a no brainer, doesn't cost a dime, help people understand the sport, give drivers more seat time judging closing ratios etc. If I ever win the lottery (need to start playing lol) there are a ton of ways to promote our sport. It all comes down to getting fans/spectators interested. If the average person knew all the different back ground stories going on with even some of the racers, their cars, their weekend, etc Lots of David vs Goliath stories etc. Every race has lots of human interest stuff going on from racers helping racers, thrashing going on , etc Some good natured drama some not. But the average person doesn't know any of this... __________________ John A. McLaughlin 5757 B/S 440-6 or G/S 383 70 Road Runner, Dad's 5096 K/SA 70 Two Ton Tamater, Taylor's,Alec,Breezy

03-10-2017, 04:09 PM	#25
Eric Merryfield Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 872 Likes: 1 Liked 502 Times in 130 Posts	Re: Making Stock and Super / Stock Sellable I like your idea Dwight re qualifying off the index.....I can't think of a single issue with it, drivers would like it, and it would likely make the AHFS work better. I can here the announcer......T/SA Gremlin versus FS/C Copo......Merryfield gets a huge head start of 4 plus seconds..Merryfield's off in the straight six, is he eating a sandwinch while driving?.He's at the 1/8 mile..here comes Matyas...ooh nice wheelstand...Gremlin's way out ahead.....don't think Matyas can catch him.....at the stripe....the copo by .003 142 mph to 96 for the gremlin..... Here is what it is now, and example of a LODRS race at epping: Merryfield in the T/SA Gremlin versus Johny Gray's beautiful 69 A/SA Camaro. There off, huge wheelstand by Gray.........dead air......Gray runs a 10.05............3.75 seconds later I get to the stripe..... Eric __________________ Eric Merryfield 1883 STK

03-10-2017, 05:29 PM	#27
ALMACK VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 1,937 Likes: 131 Liked 369 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Making Stock and Super / Stock Sellable Great idea on the qualifying runs to use the index to stagger start. As a racer, that gives us more practice during time runs because how often do you run someone during eliminations with almost the same dial as yourself ? __________________ Alan Mackin Stock 3777/ SS 3377 P/SA & SS/PA Fox Thunderbird I/PS '95 Mustang GT

03-10-2017, 05:48 PM	#29
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,972 Likes: 2,456 Liked 2,928 Times in 703 Posts	Re: Making Stock and Super / Stock Sellable Sounds very interesting. Handicapped qualifying would give more seat time in a race situation. What would it take to get it going? How many racers would like it? Maybe Dwight or Mark (or someone else) should start a pole to see if it would fly or not. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends.

03-10-2017, 07:51 PM	#30
Mike Jones VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,125 Likes: 1,179 Liked 684 Times in 289 Posts	Re: Making Stock and Super / Stock Sellable Great Idea! can we petition for it? I am putting together some pics and videos of my wagon from the last few years, to show a friend. After looking at some videos from qualifying, I have decided to use 1st round footage. It looks bad from a slow car perspective during qualifying, because the "race" is over before it starts. This really seems like a "no- brainer". Can`t think of any reason not to do it.100% more spectator appeal. Mike A114 P/SA Last edited by Mike Jones; 03-10-2017 at 07:56 PM.