New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter - Page 3

JimInNY · 12-21-2012, 12:49 AM

I really want to thank everyone for the warm welcome! So, thank you all!

Phillip marvetz · 12-21-2012, 01:40 AM

Mark didn't say it but I will, I don't think you will be able to get it to run the index with that combo. You might want to consider a 390 instead. Good luck either way.

Dave Noll · 12-21-2012, 02:08 AM

Jim, welcome. I've got one of these Ford 2V combo's myself but mine is a 351C. I got some very expeirienced advice that believes mine to be a combo quite capable of running under. There was a small block 2V Maverick here in div. 6. That could run under, although barely,can't remember the name but I raced someone from that family @ the bracket finals one year. Good luck.

Rory McNeil · 12-21-2012, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JimInNY

I'm sure I would do better with a 4v car too, cept that would mean a different engine also. the hi po 289 came with a 4v carb.

I need to get about 500 cfm out of this 2v. I think it can be done legally.

THE 289 Hi Po was not available in anything for 1968, all the 68 289s were 2 barrels, there was a 302 4 barrel that was used only in 68, factory rated at 230 HP, not sure what NHRA has it at. As for a 390, the 66&67 390 4 barrel is allowed a better intake and carb combo that the 68 is not. The 428 CJ was also available in 68, but not really a budget combo. We actually have had 3 or 4 different 302 2 barrel early 70s Maverick/Comets, in P,Q, &R/SA up here in Div. 6. In legal trim,none were really quick, index wise. However, a 68 Fairlane/Torino is a lot heavier than a Maverick or Comet, so I doubt that you could get the car light enough for P. Also, how would you intend to "legally" make the Autolite 2 barrel flow 500 cfm? You cant legally change the throttle blade , venturi,or booster sizes. Quite an uphill battle, i`m afraid.

david ring · 12-21-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VStock

RJ, I couldn't agree more. Jim, I'm going to suggest you take that motor apart and check everything. YOU are the one who is responsible for the motor complying with the rules, not the shop that built it. Plus, you'll know exactly what you have.

Also-there is a guy down in Cobleskill who has a dyno-he is a Ford guy-he had a really fast A/SA-I think his name is Richard Todd-someone on the forum should be able to verify that for you-in any event, I think he'd be someone close by that might be of help.

Alex Denysenko · 12-27-2012, 04:48 PM

welcome to class racing, nice car although I would stay awy from that 289 combo and buld the car with a FE 390 or 428, or even a 351W-4V would be better, the 289 2v would be a stone in that car probably won't run the index even after a boat load of money, and you will be eaten alive in ANY heads up. otherwise good luck.

Mike Jones · 12-27-2012, 07:06 PM

Welcome to P/SA Jim!
I campaigned this 69 Chevelle in P at Division 1 races in 2012
Had a blast
met a lot of fine people, helped me any way they could
and believe me, I needed help

Don`t need roll bar, driving suit or updated lap belt
I paid $139 for a SA2010 helmet, and I was good to go.
That was last year, so check the rule book
all the best to you, Jim

Mike Jones
A114 P/SA

michael mercer · 12-27-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noll

Jim, welcome. I've got one of these Ford 2V combo's myself but mine is a 351C. I got some very expeirienced advice that believes mine to be a combo quite capable of running under. There was a small block 2V Maverick here in div. 6. That could run under, although barely,can't remember the name but I raced someone from that family @ the bracket finals one year. Good luck.

The 71-72 comets/mavericks have been defactored to 162 hp for the 302.
The 68 289 is at 195 hp and the 302 is 210. To be competitive the 289 needs
to be around 155. It wouldn't hurt to petition nhra for a hp reduction.

Bob Emery · 12-27-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by michael mercer

The 71-72 comets/mavericks have been defactored to 162 hp for the 302.
The 68 289 is at 195 hp and the 302 is 210. To be competitive the 289 needs
to be around 155. It wouldn't hurt to petition nhra for a hp reduction.

So then would the '66 289 2V in a Fairlane be within the same guidelines for an HP reduction petition?

Mike Schwartz · 12-28-2012, 03:12 AM

Good luck with your build. I had a similar car, a 1969 Torino GT 390, with the same roof line. Unfortunately, I crashed it driving to a race back in '79 or '80.

12-21-2012, 12:49 AM	#21
JimInNY Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 7 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter I really want to thank everyone for the warm welcome! So, thank you all!

12-21-2012, 01:40 AM	#22
Phillip marvetz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lynden ,WA Posts: 820 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter Mark didn't say it but I will, I don't think you will be able to get it to run the index with that combo. You might want to consider a 390 instead. Good luck either way. __________________ 2009 V/SA Record Holder

12-21-2012, 02:08 AM	#23
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 709 Likes: 2,650 Liked 238 Times in 111 Posts	Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter Jim, welcome. I've got one of these Ford 2V combo's myself but mine is a 351C. I got some very expeirienced advice that believes mine to be a combo quite capable of running under. There was a small block 2V Maverick here in div. 6. That could run under, although barely,can't remember the name but I raced someone from that family @ the bracket finals one year. Good luck. __________________ Dave Noll, EF/S ,?/SA 6526

12-27-2012, 04:48 PM	#26
Alex Denysenko Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Michigan City IN Posts: 633 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter welcome to class racing, nice car although I would stay awy from that 289 combo and buld the car with a FE 390 or 428, or even a 351W-4V would be better, the 289 2v would be a stone in that car probably won't run the index even after a boat load of money, and you will be eaten alive in ANY heads up. otherwise good luck. __________________ Alex Denysenko NHRA 3038 SS, 3305 STK - IHRA 6 SS, 330A STK Moneymaker Racing LaPorte Indiana 219-861-1214 www.moneymakerracing.net Last edited by Alex Denysenko; 12-27-2012 at 04:50 PM.

12-27-2012, 07:06 PM	#27
Mike Jones VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,125 Likes: 1,179 Liked 684 Times in 289 Posts	Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter Welcome to P/SA Jim! I campaigned this 69 Chevelle in P at Division 1 races in 2012 Had a blast met a lot of fine people, helped me any way they could and believe me, I needed help Don`t need roll bar, driving suit or updated lap belt I paid $139 for a SA2010 helmet, and I was good to go. That was last year, so check the rule book all the best to you, Jim Mike Jones A114 P/SA Attached Thumbnails

12-28-2012, 03:12 AM	#30
Mike Schwartz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 532 Likes: 126 Liked 247 Times in 88 Posts	Re: New member starting a P/SA project Fairlane this winter Good luck with your build. I had a similar car, a 1969 Torino GT 390, with the same roof line. Unfortunately, I crashed it driving to a race back in '79 or '80.