Fly Weights - Page 3

Dwight Southerland · 08-09-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

65 Valiant 273/210 J/S or auto at 2795# (Edelbrock intake!)

Can anyone show me documentation that verifies the use of a D4B intake on these cars? I see a revision on the tech sheet with a casting number now listed, but the number given is the original cast iron intake.

X-TECH MAN · 08-09-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Can anyone show me documentation that verifies the use of a D4B intake on these cars? I see a revision on the tech sheet with a casting number now listed, but the number given is the original cast iron intake.

I think its a "Flim Flam" like the 67 Shelby Mustang stuff. My friend had a 273/235 HP 'Cuda when new and we never saw an Edelbrock DB-4 intake on any Valiants, Darts, or 'Cudas of any of those related years around Md. Capitol Raceway or Aquasco, etc. Even the Bob Banning Dodge D/Dart had a cast iron intake. BUT if NHRA says its good ta Go then who would say different.

Billy Nees · 08-09-2011, 06:38 PM

Dwight, the intake # is a new addition to the specs page. Looks like they finally fixed something right.

Arnold Greene · 08-09-2011, 07:14 PM

Dwight, I think the D4B intake came on the 'D' dart along with a Racer Brown camshaft and was Super Stock only. Maybe someone tried to circumvent the 'no swap engine parts' from the rule book.

X-TECH MAN · 08-09-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold Greene

Dwight, I think the D4B intake came on the 'D' dart along with a Racer Brown camshaft and was Super Stock only. Maybe someone tried to circumvent the 'no swap engine parts' from the rule book.

Arnold....The "D" Darts only came with the cast iron intake that the 273/235 HP engine had with the throttle plate bores bored out by Chrysler to use the larger Holley carb. What ever has been allowed in later years has been done the same way the 67 Shelby got its updated parts.

Dan Bennett · 08-09-2011, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by A56

I have a 1976 Dart Lite / Spirit of 76' car, its a rare one. It has the crazy red white and blue striped interior, and all the features of the Dart Lite / Feather Duster. Comicly I use it as a mock up car, maybe one day it will be a Stocker, but not with a 6 cylinder.

Mark Lelchook
E/SA #704

That's a very cool car. I really have a soft spot in my heart for the "oddballs".

It doesn't have much to do with being a class car, but your interior description reminded me of a Hang 10 that ran around this area for years. It, along with another owner's Mod Top Barracuda were two cars that rusted to the ground before any one cared to save them.

Though the smog and insurance were problems back then, I wish that Mopar had been as creative in performance as they were in special editions.

goinbroke2 · 08-09-2011, 08:30 PM

I remember my buddies sister bought a new feather duster. The biggest attration? the blinker lights went "tickle-dink, tickle-dink" sounded different than ANY other cars blinkers. To a 11-12 year old it was pretty funny.
LOL, the stupid stuff you remember years later...LOL

Dwight Southerland · 08-10-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Dwight, the intake # is a new addition to the specs page. Looks like they finally fixed something right.

Well, I have a problem with that assumption. The casting number 2465726 listed for the 1965 273 4-bbl is a cast iron manifold, unless the Chrysler version of the D4B manifold was cast with the same number.

Rory McNeil · 08-10-2011, 02:20 PM

It was a long time ago, but the photo that Dwight posted looks like the stock intake that was OE on my 65 273/235HP 4 speed 65 Valiant. I did buy an Edelbrock D4B intake for it, but I understand that there were 2 different versions of the D4B. Mine was purchased at a local speed shop, and had no MoPar part number, but I have seen a few D4Bs with a MoPar part number cast into it. I don`t know if that was a factory optional intake, or if it was simply a over the counter item.

Dwight Southerland · 08-10-2011, 04:36 PM

A56 -

That's the story that has gone around, but the intake manifold casting number on NHRA's Tech Bulletin is the cast iron intake shown in the pictures on my last post. So I am questioning that the D4B has been accepted. If they can run it with no documentation, then that opens up a whole new set of worms. But, if the factory issued D4B has that same casting number, that's a different story. Does anyone know what casting number was put on the factory D4B?

08-09-2011, 06:38 PM	#23
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,495 Likes: 3,600 Liked 7,742 Times in 1,740 Posts	Re: Fly Weights Dwight, the intake # is a new addition to the specs page. Looks like they finally fixed something right. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

08-09-2011, 07:14 PM	#24
Arnold Greene Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 136 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Fly Weights Dwight, I think the D4B intake came on the 'D' dart along with a Racer Brown camshaft and was Super Stock only. Maybe someone tried to circumvent the 'no swap engine parts' from the rule book. __________________ Arnold Greene IHRA/NHRA 2420 A/S, B/S

08-09-2011, 08:30 PM	#27
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 892 Likes: 1,626 Liked 393 Times in 153 Posts	Re: Fly Weights I remember my buddies sister bought a new feather duster. The biggest attration? the blinker lights went "tickle-dink, tickle-dink" sounded different than ANY other cars blinkers. To a 11-12 year old it was pretty funny. LOL, the stupid stuff you remember years later...LOL

08-10-2011, 02:20 PM	#29
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,311 Likes: 317 Liked 1,104 Times in 302 Posts	Re: Fly Weights It was a long time ago, but the photo that Dwight posted looks like the stock intake that was OE on my 65 273/235HP 4 speed 65 Valiant. I did buy an Edelbrock D4B intake for it, but I understand that there were 2 different versions of the D4B. Mine was purchased at a local speed shop, and had no MoPar part number, but I have seen a few D4Bs with a MoPar part number cast into it. I don`t know if that was a factory optional intake, or if it was simply a over the counter item. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

08-10-2011, 04:36 PM	#30
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 2,001 Likes: 64 Liked 780 Times in 194 Posts	Re: Fly Weights A56 - That's the story that has gone around, but the intake manifold casting number on NHRA's Tech Bulletin is the cast iron intake shown in the pictures on my last post. So I am questioning that the D4B has been accepted. If they can run it with no documentation, then that opens up a whole new set of worms. But, if the factory issued D4B has that same casting number, that's a different story. Does anyone know what casting number was put on the factory D4B?