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[big blue galaxie]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Yeah. Can't wait to race them , having a 50 MPH deficit.

I don't know Mark, you apply your skills to a SRT-4 Neon you might be only 10-20 mph down. 10-12000 rpm and 4 valve head? Sounds like a winner! Can you put an automatic in those?

[X-TECH MAN]

[QUOTE=goinbroke2;

So, what do you do about the NEW cars coming, seperate turbo/super class? That's one logical response. Except it adds classes.


It might add a few classes by seperating the turbo and supercharged cars from the NA cars but your going to loose a lot more classes by 2010 with the combining of stick and automatics, and the inclusion of the FWD cars with the RWD cars in thier coresponding wt class. They have already combined the trucks with the cars and the FI cars with the Carburated cars. So I dont see the problem of more classes. It will be LESS classes when all is said and done.

[Mike Carr]

[QUOTE=X-TECH MAN;106187][QUOTE=goinbroke2;

"...and the inclusion of the FWD cars with the RWD cars in thier coresponding wt class..." [/QUOTE]

I think NHRA would be better off to add the FWD cars into the corresponding Index, instead of weight break. Some, if not most, FWD cars would be severly hurt by this. Taking my car/class for example. DF/S, 19 pound class, 15.90 Index. T/SA, 19 pound class, 14.70 Index. The DF/S record is currently 14.72, by Nichole Stephenson, set in good air at Indy in April. Had Nichole been in T/SA, she wouldn't have even been under the Index, and she has the baddest car in our class!

AF/S, 13 pound class, 14.15 Index. K/SA, 13 pound class, 12.95 Index
Record: 13.62 Record: 11.38
BF/S, 16 pound class, 14.95 Index. P/SA, 16 pound class, 13.75 Index
Record: 13.87 Record: 12.17
CF/S, 17.50 pound class, 15.45 Index. Q-R/SA, 17-18 pound class, 14.10-14.35 Index
Record: 14.40 Record: 12.82 and 13.01
DF/S, 19 pound class, 15.90 Index. T/SA, 19 pound class, 14.70 Index
Record: 14.72 Record:13.27
EF/S, 25 pound class, 17.75 Index. W/SA, 24 pound class (no 25 pound RWD class), 16.95 Index.
Record: 16.25 Record: 15.83 (stick); 16.45 minimum (automatic)

Other than Steve Polhill with his stick EF/S, no other FWD class has a record close, let alone under, the RWD Index. And Steve has maybe one of the quickest FWD cars around anywhere, regardless of Class.

Anyone see the problem(s) here?

[X-TECH MAN]

I dont know if it will be according to index or wt. breaks but Im hearing they wont be on thier own in 2010. No more singles for class. The next year or so will be interesting to say the least.

[Jeff Lee]

I see Ford has a 2010 Taurus SHO coming out with the Eco-tech 3.5L using TWIN turbo's and developing 375 HP! I don't know squat about this engine but it has a 6-speed auto-trans and AWD. I'd bet my last $100 that 450HP is a hand-held programer, exhaust & air filter away.
Hope the block and heads aren't some thin casting POS!
Geez, even Hundai has some 375 HP made in Korea engine. What's this world coming too?

[X-TECH MAN]

[QUOTE=Jeff Lee; I'd bet my last $100 that 450HP is a hand-held programer, exhaust & air filter away.
Just another reason to seperate the old technology and the new turbo and supercharged cars.

[Michael Beard]

I think NHRA would be better off to add the FWD cars into the corresponding Index, instead of weight break.

That would make sense.

[Sean Kennedy]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I dont know if it will be according to index or wt. breaks but Im hearing they wont be on thier own in 2010. No more singles for class. The next year or so will be interesting to say the least.

Great, i start building one and then the class doesn't exist anymore. That's just what i wanted to hear! I guess i better get it done this year.

[Larry Munk]

Sean, I respect Terry but other sources don't agree with his information.

[Sean Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I see Ford has a 2010 Taurus SHO coming out with the Eco-tech 3.5L using TWIN turbo's and developing 375 HP! I don't know squat about this engine but it has a 6-speed auto-trans and AWD. I'd bet my last $100 that 450HP is a hand-held programer, exhaust & air filter away.
Hope the block and heads aren't some thin casting POS!
Geez, even Hundai has some 375 HP made in Korea engine. What's this world coming too?

American cars are no longer the pinnacle of design and technology. We have some serious work to do to catch up with Europe and Asia.

I'm sure I will catch some heat for this, but it's true. They have been building better passenger cars for 20 or 30 years and better performance in many cases for the last 10 or so.

I'm no foreign car lover, I just know when to call a spade a spade.