128 Car Field Qualifying - Page 3

Jim Wahl · 07-22-2008, 09:47 PM

I have one question, how do we find out, is there anywhere in writing as to the minutes of the Committee meetings? Are we not allowed to know what goes on in them? What was talked about? What was voted on? How did the members vote? All this needs to be published either on the NHRA site or in the National Dragster or both! This isn't a secret society, it is a group voted in by the racers FOR the racers. And calling your rep won't work. You will get 7 different views and opinions if you can get a hold of your rep. The facts need to be made public! Jim

Bill Koski · 07-22-2008, 10:18 PM

Makes one wish we were back to the days when we got some answers from Len.
Hard to believe tradition can be ****-canned and not a word on the rationale of why it was done!
I know, I know, the squeaky wheel!
No heads-up in eliminations will come, sooner rather then later.

Jim Wahl · 07-22-2008, 10:30 PM

It is extremely suspicious that NOT ONE Committee member will post and explain how this came about. What are we to do? Is our back against the wall now? Do we need to recall ALL of the Committee members and re vote or disband the Committee altogether? Something has to give here! I will ask again, is there a Committee member with the balls to post here and explain exactly what happened in the meeting? This is just too bizarre to ignore. Jim

Bruce Noland · 07-22-2008, 10:34 PM

Jim,
I think the SRAC conducts conference calls and it doesn't sound like any one is taking anything down other than what they may have voted on.

It sounds like there is not enough evidence to make a federal case out of this issue. Where do you go from here? We can run this thread up to 500 posts and never get a consensus and nhra isn't going to change a thing. So what's next?

Jim Wahl · 07-22-2008, 10:46 PM

OK, Bruce, then I would ask, why aren't there notes kept? Who informs NHRA ( you know it must be in writing) what was talked about or decided? There is no way this group is run this way. There are records kept . That's what I am asking, what's next? Jim

Bruce Noland · 07-22-2008, 10:59 PM

Jim,
I know you are highly motivated by this issue, but you're not going to get the type of information you are looking for. From what I have heard, the SRAC members conduct teleconferences to discuss a few issues. They may vote on an issue or two and that is about it. No big conspiracy. Just some guys doing the best they can to put some balance back into our little world.

Jim Wahl · 07-22-2008, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Jim,
I know you are highly motivated by this issue, but you're not going to get the type of information you are looking for. From what I have heard, the SRAC members conduct teleconferences to discuss a few issues. They may vote on an issue or two and that is about it. No big conspiracy. Just some guys doing the best they can to put some balance back into our little world.

Bruce, You are correct, I am a highly motivated individual, if I wasn't I would not have been able to attain an advanced degree at the ancient age of 55. Maybe the Committee members should take their position a little more seriously? They have the power to effect a major sport. If they believe nothing untoward was done then one of them should come on here or somewhere and explain exactly how this came about. I advocate no conspiracy, just saying this is very strange. I bet when the shoe is on the other foot you will agree with the rest of us Bruce. Jim

Jeff Lee · 07-23-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis Miller

FYI, I understand that the no heads up runs in eliminations got voted down. Looks like heads up runs in Stock and SS eliminators should still be in effect for next season.

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions.)

So the interesting thing is IT MADE IT TO A VOTE!

Jeff Lee · 07-23-2008, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Jim,
I know you are highly motivated by this issue, but you're not going to get the type of information you are looking for. From what I have heard, the SRAC members conduct teleconferences to discuss a few issues. They may vote on an issue or two and that is about it. No big conspiracy. Just some guys doing the best they can to put some balance back into our little world.

Having a "minutes of the meeting" can not be difficult. In fact, if somebody were to sue NHRA over policies created with the SRAC, minutes of the meeting may prove helpful as a CYA for NHRA.

Jim Wahl · 07-23-2008, 01:06 AM

Your Committee members:

2 Bill Holt Gainesville bholt@nhra.com .1 Evan Smith Linden, N.J. evan.smith@sourceinterlink.com .2 Woodro Josey Byron, Ga. woodyrace@yahoo.com .3 Greg Hill Louisville, Ky. gph.hill@insightbb.com .4 Jeff Teuton Houma, La. jefft@southlanddodge.com .5 Gary Stinnett Empora, Kan. gsracing5545@yahoo.com .6 Jim Waldo Richland, Wash. Lgwaldo2@aol.com .7 Jimmy DeFrank Chatsworth, Calif. jimmy@calcarcover.com

View Poll Results: Who should determine 128 car fields?
Allow class winners to "bump" into the field.	101	42.80%
Qualify fastest 128 cars only.	135	57.20%
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07-22-2008, 09:47 PM	#21
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,842 Likes: 631 Liked 674 Times in 122 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying I have one question, how do we find out, is there anywhere in writing as to the minutes of the Committee meetings? Are we not allowed to know what goes on in them? What was talked about? What was voted on? How did the members vote? All this needs to be published either on the NHRA site or in the National Dragster or both! This isn't a secret society, it is a group voted in by the racers FOR the racers. And calling your rep won't work. You will get 7 different views and opinions if you can get a hold of your rep. The facts need to be made public! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-22-2008, 10:18 PM	#22
Bill Koski Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 213 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying Makes one wish we were back to the days when we got some answers from Len. Hard to believe tradition can be ****-canned and not a word on the rationale of why it was done! I know, I know, the squeaky wheel! No heads-up in eliminations will come, sooner rather then later.

07-22-2008, 10:30 PM	#23
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,842 Likes: 631 Liked 674 Times in 122 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying It is extremely suspicious that NOT ONE Committee member will post and explain how this came about. What are we to do? Is our back against the wall now? Do we need to recall ALL of the Committee members and re vote or disband the Committee altogether? Something has to give here! I will ask again, is there a Committee member with the balls to post here and explain exactly what happened in the meeting? This is just too bizarre to ignore. Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-22-2008, 10:34 PM	#24
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying Jim, I think the SRAC conducts conference calls and it doesn't sound like any one is taking anything down other than what they may have voted on. It sounds like there is not enough evidence to make a federal case out of this issue. Where do you go from here? We can run this thread up to 500 posts and never get a consensus and nhra isn't going to change a thing. So what's next? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

07-22-2008, 10:46 PM	#25
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,842 Likes: 631 Liked 674 Times in 122 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying OK, Bruce, then I would ask, why aren't there notes kept? Who informs NHRA ( you know it must be in writing) what was talked about or decided? There is no way this group is run this way. There are records kept . That's what I am asking, what's next? Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

07-22-2008, 10:59 PM	#26
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying Jim, I know you are highly motivated by this issue, but you're not going to get the type of information you are looking for. From what I have heard, the SRAC members conduct teleconferences to discuss a few issues. They may vote on an issue or two and that is about it. No big conspiracy. Just some guys doing the best they can to put some balance back into our little world. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

07-23-2008, 01:06 AM	#30
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,842 Likes: 631 Liked 674 Times in 122 Posts	Re: 128 Car Field Qualifying Your Committee members: 2 Bill Holt Gainesville bholt@nhra.com .1 Evan Smith Linden, N.J. evan.smith@sourceinterlink.com .2 Woodro Josey Byron, Ga. woodyrace@yahoo.com .3 Greg Hill Louisville, Ky. gph.hill@insightbb.com .4 Jeff Teuton Houma, La. jefft@southlanddodge.com .5 Gary Stinnett Empora, Kan. gsracing5545@yahoo.com .6 Jim Waldo Richland, Wash. Lgwaldo2@aol.com .7 Jimmy DeFrank Chatsworth, Calif. jimmy@calcarcover.com __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.