Do Stockers need correct year seats?

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by Mike McCandless

I know I'm far from the most positive person when comes to bracket racing and racing in general these days. It's incidents like this that make me that way. Racing has gone away from being fun with things like this. Most that know me, know I raced to simply have a good time. I raced to get away from work. Then to come to the track, listen to the bitching over something that has no effect on the outcome of a race, crazy. I'd hate to know my life was so boring that I had to be obsessed with someone else's car. Much less a car that isn't in their class. There wasn't a SINGLE K/CM in our division last year or this year as far as I know. If there was I'm sure it would outrun me as I was usually .4-.5 under the index.

I imagine it was the same person that complained we didn't have a cage in the car. Nothing like being at piedmont last year with the tech guy coming over asking if we had a cage in the car. It's a stationwagon with 500 window's with bars running everywhere. I didn't know ray charles was racing stock last year.

Oh well, is what it is. I'll make sure to bring the grill out for the rod/piston party. Going to be fun!

And I'll bring the beer! Jim

[herbjr]

The issue is this. We have a set of 70 and later HIGH BACK bucket seats in a 67 Dodge wagon. The Duster seats as I will call them are the heaviest Bucket Seat made. The B Body seat is a lower back seat with a head rest. Its LIGHTER. The Bench was quite a bit lighter. Our seats have the track and they work if we pull one bolt out. They tilt forward as they dont need to in a 4 door wagon but they do. There is no Center Console which they are to have. I also have a 1967 Parts catalog which shows an optional bucket seat like they used in all Dodge Chargers as an optional seat for the wagon. They also built 383 4 speed wagons in 67 with Bucket seats STANDARD. Oh yea and lets not forget Lee Smiths car, with one with a hood scoop and the battery moved to the trunk per the NHRA classification guide. Guess what it ran SS/G in NHRA with you guess it Bucket seats. We were told we could notch the bench seat. Well I guess now Ill have to take it to one of the best fabricators in the USA (My DAD) to notch all but maybe 4 inches out of the factory bench, guess what then it will be almost 25 lbs lighter than the 2 buckets that are in there. Keep in mind we were using the HEAVIEST buckets made. So the track lost an entry, IHRA lost a membership, and we have factory documentation that 67s came with buckets. Have a nice day. I remember now why I quit in 96.


Herb Jr

[Bob Mulry]

It's OK if IHRA wants to let you race with a feather duster stuffed up your butt...

Leave NHRA STOCK alone because we knew the rules when we built the car....

If you don't think that putting every lightweight component that you can find forward of the rear wheels then you better take up another hobby....

Bob

[Travis Miller]

The Tech Dept enforcing correct seats may be why 1,093 Stock racers competed for points at NHRA in the 2009 season.

Already for 2010 there have been 323 Stock racers running and a lot of Divisions have not even started their seasons yet.

Enforcing seat rules must be working at NHRA. I plan on doing my part.

Travis

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[Mike McCandless]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

It's OK if IHRA wants to let you race with a feather duster stuffed up your butt...

Leave NHRA STOCK alone because we knew the rules when we built the car....

If you don't think that putting every lightweight component that you can find forward of the rear wheels then you better take up another hobby....

Bob

Well good for you. In little IHRA, nobody is in my class. So rather than dump a ton of time and money into a car, I got a car that will never have a heads up run. Like I said, I ran .5 under the index, last year I never had a car in my class. I work smart, not hard. Maybe you should choose a different combo and not worry so much?

[Floyd Gomez]

Originally Posted by Travis Miller

The Tech Dept enforcing correct seats may be why 1,093 Stock racers competed for points at NHRA in the 2009 season.

Already for 2010 there have been 323 Stock racers running and a lot of Divisions have not even started their seasons yet.

Enforcing seat rules must be working at NHRA. I plan on doing my part.

Travis

(Disclaimer: Opinions and showing data for proving a point expressed by me on this forum are exactly that, my opinions and what else I said.)

Travis, Can you show me anywhere in the rule book where it says I must run the seats that came with my car? Just curious and want to make sure I did not misread anything or misunderstand the tech department in Glendora.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Mike McCandless

Well good for you. In little IHRA, nobody is in my class. So rather than dump a ton of time and money into a car, I got a car that will never have a heads up run. Like I said, I ran .5 under the index, last year I never had a car in my class. I work smart, not hard. Maybe you should choose a different combo and not worry so much?

Travis is the NHRA Div 3 tech guy and a damn good one at that. One of the best and VERY knowledgeable when it comes to stock and S/S class cars. Its evident that you dont know enough about stock or class racing to even know who your talking to or why stock is required stock seats. If my friend from Md. hadnt sold his 65 Red Ply. K/CM classed car you woud have plenty to worry about in a heads up race. Right now he is looking for another car to install his drive train in so you might as well "sell the **** house" as they say. Put the right seats in the car, make it run quicker by working on it and quit whinning.

[Adger Smith]

Travis or whom ever,
I would like to know how you identify the exact year-model of seats. Is it just looks or is there some numbers/pictures (what ever)?? In other words: is the decision of the seat legality subjective or objective?
I have a friend building, piecing together, a car and we were wondering if that was something else to look into..
Thanks

[Ken Keir]

Yes

Ken Keir
1470 A/SA

[herbjr]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Travis is the NHRA Div 3 tech guy and a damn good one at that. One of the best and VERY knowledgeable when it comes to stock and S/S class cars. Its evident that you dont know enough about stock or class racing to even know who your talking to or why stock is required stock seats. If my friend from Md. hadnt sold his 65 Red Ply. K/CM classed car you woud have plenty to worry about in a heads up race. Right now he is looking for another car to install his drive train in so you might as well "sell the **** house" as they say. Put the right seats in the car, make it run quicker by working on it and quit whinning.

Terry the point is the car came with bucket seats and I'm told I have to replace them. High Back or Low back its not the point. THe car will have a 383 in it for NHRA stock for my son, I guess I will have to figure out what Travis wants. I personally met Travis in 94 at VA and he teched my lebaron with no problem.

I'm only bitching because the car came with something and I cant run that.