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Re: The official DragInsights Power Rankings thread
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How about Nat'l winners> Bob Broadbent Dave Casey Barry Parker Dean Cook Vinny Barone John Shaul Michael Iacono Who am I missing? Oh yeah, last year's winner John Gray I WILL get a big laugh if one of these guys gets to the final ;-)
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The list you gave is definitely a group of racers that I look up to and make sure I bring my "A game" when I stage up against them... |
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06-04-2022, 12:39 PM
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Re: The official DragInsights Power Rankings thread
I'm getting ready to dive into a foxhole, but my opinion is that some people are not understanding what the reports are about.
Not the best analogy, but I've never seen any racer be offended by being left off the Tricky Tipster list. That was simply one person's (who changed over time) gut feeling considering performance levels, recent wins, and driving ability. The list here simply takes that from a gut feeling to a more specific analysis. I may be leaving some things out, but what gets you on the list is a number of things: recent reaction times, ability to run under the index, past success at a given track, ability to drive the stripe, and performance in eliminations so far this year. If you're being honest, those are the same things most racers would consider as they dial their car and plan their race. Being able to put numbers on things is much more accurate than gut feelings. In the days before 60' clocks, you'd hear about one car hooking better than the other. But when we got numbers, sometimes it was a case of a slower 60 but a better reaction. So they're looking at a lot of cold hard facts. And putting a rating on who is doing a better job. No, it is not 100% accurate since all of us have seen those occasions where the "impossible" or unlikely happens. It's an argument for another day, but those that think statistical analysis is not needed in drag racing probably should yank the data systems out of their cars and ask the track operator to shut off the clocks and just leave the win light. Last edited by Dan Bennett; 06-04-2022 at 12:42 PM. |
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06-04-2022, 01:44 PM
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Re: The official DragInsights Power Rankings thread
I’m in the hole with you Dan. Know Alicia and Rusty (RIP) were formulating a plan to roll out this tool years ago and kudos to her for providing this resource. Don’t know the algorithm and while some anomalies such as Keith’s omission will no doubt be corrected by her in the near term it would behoove folks to use the data points provided to augment your strategy. Just looking at how analytics has changed baseball is a perfect example of winners using every tool available.
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Re: The official DragInsights Power Rankings thread
Hi guys! Thanks for all the feedback. Couple things:
Appreciate you all very much - happy racing! Alicia |
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06-04-2022, 02:17 PM
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Re: The official DragInsights Power Rankings thread
I was first car in line and I don’t think they needed the stats to realize what was going on,
the first three cars switched lanes to get in behind me instead of beside me lol
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06-04-2022, 02:23 PM
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Re: The official DragInsights Power Rankings thread
Corrected rankings...sounds like the word is out
 Super Street Keith Mayers - Power Factor 55.6870, Win Probability 18.93% Brian Sawyer - Power Factor 55.1696, Win Probability 18.76% John Olson - Power Factor 30.7706, Win Probability 10.46% Raymond Knight - Power Factor 24.2121, Win Probability 8.23% Paul Lorenti - Power Factor 24.1937, Win Probability 8.23% Jason Mazzotta - Power Factor 21.0528, Win Probability 7.16% John Harper - Power Factor 18.9976, Win Probability 6.46% Robert Lohnes - Power Factor 14.7155, Win Probability 5.00% Kelly Kundratic - Power Factor 6.3877, Win Probability 2.17% Lou Avolio - Power Factor 5.4381, Win Probability 1.85% Field Win Probability 12.75% |
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I fixed this post yesterday on here but I don't see it anymore. Was it removed due to being Super Street in a Stock/SS thread? Let me explain what we are doing because clearly some are not understanding.
First of all, Keith M was at the top of the Super Street list when I did the Super Street rankings so you can all take a deep breath and relax lol. Alicia posted an incomplete sheet from 3 days ago that I had not yet finished. Second, we are NOT posting the top 10 drivers. That would be boring and the top 10 would rarely change and we would see the same names at most races. We want to put random names in so we can see what other drivers' power rankings are. We post the TOP 1-3 drivers for a power factor baseline so you can see how the other drivers match up. We also try not to repeat drivers in multiple classes, like Mike Iacono is already listed in Super Stock so he gets left off of Stock. Third, and to keep Mark Yacavone from jumping off a ledge, yes you can laugh all you want if one of the drivers not listed wins. That is what the "field" power factor and probability is. Where does it say they should pack it in and go home? John Gray had a power factor 14.5ish and a probability of 6.4ish% so his probability is boosting the "field." So, yes, you could laugh all the way to the bank if you chose the field and we were actually gambling here haha! Cheer up pal. These are meant to be fun, and we try to change it up all the time. Enjoy! Quote:
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06-04-2022, 06:01 PM
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Re: The official DragInsights Power Rankings thread
Bobby, Alicia..
I'm plenty calm right now...If waiting for S/S didn't rile me up, I don't know what would. I was being facetious about guys giving up and leaving..That was just for the effect ;-) Let me tell you a little story from about a half century ago.. Yours truly at his first Nat'l event in S/S . Last three cars remaining.. Larry Nelson, winner, Anthony Cieri r/u, and MY , lone semi-finalist...In other words who, who, and who? The odds on favorite (without a computer analysis) Mr Bobby Warren ,who had won the previous two Nat'l meets..I raced him in the second round. So much for favorites. Bobby B, I'll bet you I could do as good a job from a gut feeling ..I'll pick just five at the next race ..Between you and I ..Game on? ;-) How about I pick 5 who don't get past the 1st or second round? Guys? That ought to be a laugh riot. Have fun with your project, if that's the proper term ..Good luck with it. BTW , this is breakout racing, not Pro Stock .Love to see your record at the end of the season.
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