1971 Torino 500 2 door hardtop - Page 3

Dave Turner · 09-04-2019, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose Racing

Im building a 1971 Ford Torino 500 hardtop. It has a 302 2v Autolite 2100 carb completely stock engine with a C4 and a 9inch rear. I also have stock Iron cleveland 4v heads and the matching Iron 4v intake and just need a block. Im trying to decide to either run T/SA or U/SA with the 302 2V or G/SA or F/SA with the 351C I just need a block and a Holley 0-3310C or I could just build a footbrake bracket car. Im not really shur what direction I wanna go or what would make the most sense? I also have a Jim Paquet C4 4800 stall converter.

PM on the way.

Rory McNeil · 09-05-2019, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Carguy49

Thanks Billy. Yes, the Torino is physically larger than a Comet or Maverick. I was surprised at how light they are since they are so much bigger.

According to the rule book, once a class is determined you add 170 for the driver and that is your final weight. Last line of the weight section for Stock Eliminator in the rule book - All cars are weighed with the driver. That is why the total is 3410 for the Torino and so forth.

Good luck getting a 70-71 Torino down to 3410 pounds with a driver.

Carguy49 · 09-05-2019, 10:36 AM

I am curious. Can someone (Rose Racing) or anyone that has a car like this weigh it and let us know what it weighs???

The one that I had was a low option car and I don't remember what it weighed. After all it was over 40 years ago.

Mark Yacavone · 09-05-2019, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FireSale

Who ran that white Thunderbird with the blue nose flames and what was the combo? That was a big car that ran well and was successful.
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That would be Loge/ Stein Racing ..That, being an 86 Fox unit body, would be fairly light, once stripped of all the power options. That gen. T bird was actually very aerodynamically advanced in it's day. Think Bill Elliot.
Moving on....

Dave Noll · 09-05-2019, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

The 351/240 Windsor and Cleveland 2bbl engines are probably not good choices.

We'll see on the Cleveland

Rose Racing · 09-08-2019, 01:14 PM

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This is a set of our ” Cheater ” upper arms. The term cheater refers to a trick the drag racers did to the Ford upper arms back in the day to make the shaft kit move smoother (look stock but not be stock). Anyone who has ever worked with these arms knows, they can be very stiff if they’re not put together properly. The racers will take the arms apart and spend a huge amount of time working the shaft and bushings until it worked smooth. Sometimes, they would be so smooth, you could move the shaft kit with just two fingers. We spend a lot of time on these arms and these are that smooth.

Anybody run these or the double roller upper control arms? and what do you Cleveland guys run for roller rocker arms?

Bill Harris · 09-08-2019, 03:49 PM

https://opentrackerracing.com/ has all the rollerized front suspension stuff and it is excellent. I have been told that it is not legal in Stock, but is in SS, but who knows for sure? I used it on a 69 Mustang for SS/GT several years ago and the guy who did the front end alignment couldn't believe how well it worked.

If your interested in 429SCJ stuff, I have a bunch of it.

Rose Racing · 09-12-2019, 08:30 PM

After looking at NHRA blueprints it says for 302 valves are 1.79 intake and 1.46 exhaust.... I'm sorry but this doesn't really sound right?

Mark Yacavone · 09-12-2019, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rose Racing

After looking at NHRA blueprints it says for 302 valves are 1.79 intake and 1.46 exhaust.... I'm sorry but this doesn't really sound right?

Why not?

FireSale · 09-12-2019, 11:44 PM

George Reid's Ford Engine Parts Interchange lists all 302 heads from 68 to 78 as 1.78/1.45.

MustangTek agrees,
http://www.mustangtek.com/heads/Heads.html

Edit: So does Summit. Melling and Sealed Power stock replacement valves are these sizes up to 78.

09-05-2019, 10:36 AM	#23
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,909 Likes: 2,146 Liked 2,575 Times in 650 Posts	Re: 1971 Torino 500 2 door hardtop I am curious. Can someone (Rose Racing) or anyone that has a car like this weigh it and let us know what it weighs??? The one that I had was a low option car and I don't remember what it weighed. After all it was over 40 years ago. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends.

09-08-2019, 01:14 PM	#26
Rose Racing Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Sandusky, Ohio Posts: 338 Likes: 83 Liked 185 Times in 64 Posts	Re: 1971 Torino 500 2 door hardtop LIMITED SUPPLY – (BLUEPRINTED) LATER STYLE “CHEATER” 67-73 UPPER CONTROL ARMS $295.00 - Limited Supply - (Blueprinted) Later Style "Cheater" 67-73 Upper Control Arms quantity 1 ADD TO CART SKU: ORP-1126 Categories: 1960-1970 FALCON, 1960-1971 RANCHERO, 1960-1974 COMET, 1966-1971 FAIRLANE, 1967-1973 COUGAR, 1967-MUSTANG, 1968-1969 MUSTANG, 1968-1971 TORINO, 1970-1977 MAVERICK, 1970-MUSTANG, 1971-1973 MUSTANG, Drag Racing, Road Racing, Upper Control Arms Description Description This is a set of our ” Cheater ” upper arms. The term cheater refers to a trick the drag racers did to the Ford upper arms back in the day to make the shaft kit move smoother (look stock but not be stock). Anyone who has ever worked with these arms knows, they can be very stiff if they’re not put together properly. The racers will take the arms apart and spend a huge amount of time working the shaft and bushings until it worked smooth. Sometimes, they would be so smooth, you could move the shaft kit with just two fingers. We spend a lot of time on these arms and these are that smooth. Anybody run these or the double roller upper control arms? and what do you Cleveland guys run for roller rocker arms?

09-08-2019, 03:49 PM	#27
Bill Harris Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ooltewah, TN Posts: 421 Likes: 13 Liked 26 Times in 13 Posts	Re: 1971 Torino 500 2 door hardtop https://opentrackerracing.com/ has all the rollerized front suspension stuff and it is excellent. I have been told that it is not legal in Stock, but is in SS, but who knows for sure? I used it on a 69 Mustang for SS/GT several years ago and the guy who did the front end alignment couldn't believe how well it worked. If your interested in 429SCJ stuff, I have a bunch of it. __________________ Bill Harris ex 2172 STK ex 2272 S/S

09-12-2019, 08:30 PM	#28
Rose Racing Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Sandusky, Ohio Posts: 338 Likes: 83 Liked 185 Times in 64 Posts	Re: 1971 Torino 500 2 door hardtop After looking at NHRA blueprints it says for 302 valves are 1.79 intake and 1.46 exhaust.... I'm sorry but this doesn't really sound right?

09-12-2019, 11:44 PM	#30
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 127 Posts	Re: 1971 Torino 500 2 door hardtop George Reid's Ford Engine Parts Interchange lists all 302 heads from 68 to 78 as 1.78/1.45. MustangTek agrees, http://www.mustangtek.com/heads/Heads.html Edit: So does Summit. Melling and Sealed Power stock replacement valves are these sizes up to 78. __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394 Last edited by FireSale; 09-12-2019 at 11:56 PM.