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Old 10-07-2024, 10:07 PM   #21
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SS/AH cars don't wheelie too high, but A. Lincoln Morehead's Camaro reaches for the sky every pass and is bad fast. Every car is different, but I must say Calvert bars changed Stock Eliminator forever.
Did you watch the hemi shoot out at Indy this year?
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Old 10-07-2024, 11:40 PM   #22
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How much will a wheelie affect ET plus or nothi?
Thats going to vary from car/truck to car/truck Its not simple physics at all you also have to consider air drag of the front end versus air drag of the bottom of the car, front wheel drag versus none(during wheelie) offset by wheelie bar wheel drag(if the car has wheelie bars)

In the case of my 10.4-10.60 something truck(which is set up with a 9 inch tire ie stocker build), with no wind, the bigger the wheelie the quicker it is, when it goes into fly and be free mode, its flashing the convertor higher, which reduces the 60 foot on the rear tire time and lands 100-125 feet out there. Good sanhuffs keep it from a bouncing too much. It goes 100% straight every time.....except for TOO big of a wheelie, which will torque steer it a touch onto 1 tire, etc and kill a couple in ET as its going snake like down the track.

There used to be a rule of thumb out there I think maybe in the MP books, something like 10 flat and less more wheelie would be slower due to aero drag, with modern stuff, I think you could get away with 9.30's
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Old 10-08-2024, 02:21 AM   #23
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Testing, Testing and more Testing to see what works best with your combination.
Too many different combinations with different variables to say one thing works best.
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Old 10-08-2024, 08:00 AM   #24
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Did you watch the hemi shoot out at Indy this year?
Comella has his stuff in one sock as we say down South. BIG wheel speed and he pulls 2nd by the tree with the front up about a foot. He wins every race right there. I am sure he test and like I said "it's in one sock". Former Phish

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Old 10-08-2024, 09:28 AM   #25
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Old 10-08-2024, 11:04 AM   #26
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

It is obvious that every combination will have its own characteristics, weight transfer amount vs. wheel spin, two wheels on the ground vs. four, convertors reaction to it all, etc. etc. Serious testing on your own combination will give you the answer. For those not living in the Northeast, you will have to accomplish this without Ed. We know this puts you at a distinct disadvantage, but do the best you can.

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Old 10-08-2024, 11:10 AM   #27
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I travel and have helped many bracket and class racers, some which have learned the hard way that the forums typically aren’t the place to get the truth and the facts, rather opinion based on myth, rumor and hearsay from those that think they know or sales pitches from those that stand to make a profit.

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Old 10-08-2024, 12:34 PM   #28
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I always worked with stick cars, so the converter thing is pretty interesting. I'm going to enjoy trying to figure out what's going on there.
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Old 10-08-2024, 02:01 PM   #30
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you don't and If they wanted their names here they would have told me. IF you ever see me in person again, ask and I'll tell you.
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