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Old 01-13-2020, 08:49 PM   #261
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Bruce , this is the STOCKER thread,....your HEROICS belong on the super stock thread.......
Say Mr. Negativity - ~~ Up your pie hole. There's Stock AND S/S references here.
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Old 01-13-2020, 08:57 PM   #262
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Say Mr. Negativity - ~~ Up your pie hole. There's Stock AND S/S references here.
I sincerely doubt that you would talk to me that way if we were face to face.When I am searching for ENTERTAINMENT , I google your name and all these PONTIAC forums pop up....Whats up with that ? REGARDS...MJ
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Old 01-14-2020, 07:22 AM   #263
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While lookin thru some old DRC files for SS Pontiac info, I ran across this.

At Bristol, in 1999, Lee Bannister won Stock at this FMDRS race.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

In 2000, he was #10, on the nat Stock points championship list, with only 5 nat events entered.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2000#indextop

He won the Castrol Nats !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2000#indextop

Also says he won 2 nat events in 1999. I'll look those up.

OK, 1 win was at the Gators !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

The other was the Fall Nats !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r1999#indextop

Haven't found out how he finished in 1999 points.

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Old 01-14-2020, 11:07 PM   #264
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While looking thru the DRC archives for Pontiac SS wins, I also check most of the Stock winners.

I found that Neil Smedley won the Spring Vegas nat event, in 2001. He drove a 301T Bird.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2001#indextop

Bryan Phillips won this FMDRS race in Bakersfield.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2001#indextop

Rob Holmes won this div 3 FMDRS race.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2001#indextop

At this FMDRS race, Peter Biondo pulled off a Stock/SS, all Pontiac powered sweep, driving the Biondo '78 Bird to the Stock win !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2001#indextop

Accidentally ran across this Q-list. Paul Dilcher was #2 @ - 1.193. Dave Ribeiro was #16 @ -.998. Both had '78 Birds.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2001#indextop

At the 2002 Mid-South Nats, Lee Bannister got RU. Said he had a total of 4 Nat event wins.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2002#indextop

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So you don't know the current state of NHRA Pontiac Super Stock engines and how they came to be, but you decided it was important to make up a lie. And of course you can't prove your 389 comment. I've never even HEARD of this guy.

Negative jag offs unwilling to evolve......

At least my reality is a happy one.

642 HP iron headed 428. Really probably more like 445 inches. Thats a nice big 1.44 HP per inch Super Stocker, nice work. I just like busting your balls. And you do know who Jarrett is. Heres what I remember: Jarrett did a 1964 389 build on your beloved Pontiac forum, you proceeded to tell him he was over his head on that build. I did the machine work on his build and he actually built the customer a very nice 389, it worked very good. And I thought it was strange you telling Jarrett this after myself seeing your handy work first hand in my shop in Thousand Oaks I really didn't like the seats you installed in the exhausts on these heads. My advice when you install seats in heads, make the effort to use the correct dimension seat, smaller inner diameter. I never bothered to further critique the heads from there. Example of how a seat is done. Carry on.......
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Old 01-15-2020, 11:48 AM   #266
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Hey ya'll, look what I found !

At the '03 Super Nats, Al Vanis won Stock. Most non-Pontiac guys will have no idea why I think this win is significant.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2003#indextop

(1) Al Vanis won the US Nats, in a Pontiac powered Ventura, back in the mid '70's.

(2) This win was also in a Pontiac powered car. This time, it was a '77 Lemans. The reason that's significant, is because many of the Pontiac guys/families from the past, have long since switched to other brands.

(3) Check out his RT's. He cut two perfect .000 lights, then a .012 light, in the final.

For all these reasons I just think this was a real cool win !
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Old 01-15-2020, 04:07 PM   #267
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my 59 in 1961
Ace Wilson Pontiac in 1962
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:27 PM   #268
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my 59 in 1961
Ace Wilson Pontiac in 1962
Yeah, I got to race on 2 tracks that had a flagman. Both were just small town air strips.

I suppose that is an experience most of the younger guys missed. The spots were measured in feet, rather than fractions of a sec. NHRA specified how many feet the spot would be, between any 2 classes.

The biggest spot I ever got was between my '69 Goat & a 4cyl Pinto. IIRC, it was supposed to be 410 ft. The track was not marked off that far. The flagman guessed at it. Road down the track, on the front fender of the Pinto, to the distance he thought was right, & started the race from there. Don't know how close the distance chosen was to being correct. But, I got to the finish line 1st. It's just 1 of those racin experiences I'll never forget.

Sure wish we'd made pics of those flag starts.

http://eastcoastdragtimeshalloffame....-of-the-green/
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While lookin up SS results, I found that Lee Bannister qualified @ .852 under, at Belle Rose, and made it to round 4.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop

And I read that he won at least 4 nat events, with that Bird. So, that car & driver did very well. Would love to know what smaller races he won with that car and with any other Pontiacs he raced.

I noticed that NHRA lets some small things go, on some cars. For example: This car has a Formula hood, with T/A Fender vents. I know of a car that runs as a '73 Formy, which has '71 Bird fender vents. And, I know of another Pontiac which has no front turn signals. I assume that NHRA techs figure there is no performance advantage, so unless a competitor complains, they just let it go. I know that in the old days, some NHRA techs were a LOT more picky about details.

Appears that the name of Lee's car is "Bushwacker".
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And let's give simple credit where credit is due. While we're doing mostly a trip down memory lane, in 2004 who had THE quickest Super Stock pure Pontiac in the country? And who developed the most powerful pure Pontiac Super Stock V-8 combination in history, still to this day, Me.

To all of the current quickest S/S Pontiac's in the land, you're welcome.
LOL please !!!!!!
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