no more blocking - Page 2

Michael Beard · 12-08-2007, 02:46 PM

Talk about whining... LOL! Why do you need it?

davyjones · 12-08-2007, 02:59 PM

so if this is in the general regulations then it pertains to comp and superstock right ?

William Koski · 12-08-2007, 03:00 PM

Any rule should have some redeeming value!
If there is no safety issue involved name ONE reason for the added rule!

Mark Yacavone · 12-08-2007, 03:09 PM

Seems to me someone was seriously injured at Vegas behind the tower . The story was the driver had some kind of blocking device on his helmet? windshield?
Can you imagine the lawsuit on that one? Seems like a liability issue. They are just covering their bases.
Like anything else, some people get really carried away with those devices.

Michael Beard · 12-08-2007, 03:11 PM

Deep staging has no effect on safety. Electronics have no effect on safety. Autostart settings, first-or-worst vs worst redlight rule decisions have no effect on safety. Handicap racing versus racing off of indexes, CIC's, national records, or heads-up runs have no effect on safety. If they wanted to eliminate shift lights and tachs, they could do that, too.

They are arbitrary rules. Every sport is defined by a set of arbitrary rules.

Since it is in General Regulations, it would pertain to all categories.

THE LEGEND · 12-08-2007, 03:26 PM

Roy Hill always said "A GOOD DRIVER CAN ADAPT". I beleive this is true and the good drivers like you Dan and others such as Zane Biondo and Bertozzi should have no problems.
I could care less about the Blinders it's the 2-steps I don't care for. Stock should be an entry level (LOL) class meaning footbrake only. I also think 10.90 should not be allowed T-Stops either but thats just me.

2008 will be intresting, anybody want to buy a stocker so they can jump in an play.

Chip

Andys dad · 12-08-2007, 03:46 PM

2-steps operated off of the footbrake - is foot brake racing. I have been using a 2-step on the brake pedal for 10 years - why is it suddenly an issue? It obviously did not turn me into really good driver. The only thing that did that was putting my son in the seat.

I think it only improves reaction time not performance.

My previous post in this thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad

So let me get this straight.

NHRA thinks they have figured out how to keep the truely great racers from winning.

I think even if they limited the number of National meets to 6 and took away the prize money - maybe you guys (langs, zane, rambo, biondos, and others) would stop racing but that would not stop you from winning when you did race.

Talented and more experienced people will be better than average people. Maybe the list of talented people will get bigger now - time will tell.

I hope kids like Andy (and others) will learn what is important in life, as well as in racing.

Honesty, integrity, effort and friendship.

I think the off season puts a lot of stress on us.

Tom Briggs7100 · 12-08-2007, 04:18 PM

Anyone know if IHRA banned finger activated 2-step buttons & blocking for 2008 too ???

Ed Carpenter · 12-08-2007, 05:03 PM

2 step CANNOT be wired with line lock. Must be on brake pedal or clutch pedal. Haven't seen anything on the helmet rule. Anyone see the rule about 9.99 and quicker must have a full faced helmet. Nice.

Ed Carpenter

66 Chevy II

4244 SS/I

Toby Lang · 12-08-2007, 06:10 PM

Cool!

-Toby

12-08-2007, 02:46 PM	#11
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: no more blocking Talk about whining... LOL! Why do you need it? __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

12-08-2007, 02:59 PM	#12
davyjones Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ALTA LOMA , CA Posts: 92 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: no more blocking so if this is in the general regulations then it pertains to comp and superstock right ?

12-08-2007, 03:00 PM	#13
William Koski Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 33 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Shill? Any rule should have some redeeming value! If there is no safety issue involved name ONE reason for the added rule!

12-08-2007, 03:09 PM	#14
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,817 Likes: 2,907 Liked 5,125 Times in 1,953 Posts	Re: no more blocking Seems to me someone was seriously injured at Vegas behind the tower . The story was the driver had some kind of blocking device on his helmet? windshield? Can you imagine the lawsuit on that one? Seems like a liability issue. They are just covering their bases. Like anything else, some people get really carried away with those devices. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

12-08-2007, 03:11 PM	#15
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: no more blocking Deep staging has no effect on safety. Electronics have no effect on safety. Autostart settings, first-or-worst vs worst redlight rule decisions have no effect on safety. Handicap racing versus racing off of indexes, CIC's, national records, or heads-up runs have no effect on safety. If they wanted to eliminate shift lights and tachs, they could do that, too. They are arbitrary rules. Every sport is defined by a set of arbitrary rules. Since it is in General Regulations, it would pertain to all categories. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

12-08-2007, 03:26 PM	#16
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: no more blocking Roy Hill always said "A GOOD DRIVER CAN ADAPT". I beleive this is true and the good drivers like you Dan and others such as Zane Biondo and Bertozzi should have no problems. I could care less about the Blinders it's the 2-steps I don't care for. Stock should be an entry level (LOL) class meaning footbrake only. I also think 10.90 should not be allowed T-Stops either but thats just me. 2008 will be intresting, anybody want to buy a stocker so they can jump in an play. Chip

12-08-2007, 04:18 PM	#18
Tom Briggs7100 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Portland,Oregon Posts: 38 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What About Ihra ??? Anyone know if IHRA banned finger activated 2-step buttons & blocking for 2008 too ??? Last edited by Tom Briggs7100; 12-08-2007 at 04:51 PM.

12-08-2007, 05:03 PM	#19
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: no more blocking 2 step CANNOT be wired with line lock. Must be on brake pedal or clutch pedal. Haven't seen anything on the helmet rule. Anyone see the rule about 9.99 and quicker must have a full faced helmet. Nice. Ed Carpenter 66 Chevy II 4244 SS/I

12-08-2007, 06:10 PM	#20
Toby Lang VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 2,133 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: no more blocking Cool! -Toby