I Made an Engine Part ! - Page 2

bigdaddy4026 · 05-01-2013, 09:47 AM

all i will say is that is a very cool story and good job!

i an 40 and i have only saw 2 motors like this that the same guy owned

very cool to say the least!

Aubrey N Bruneau · 05-01-2013, 10:15 AM

Guys, and Gals... I'm having trouble even locating these scans ! ? !
I made a compilation video that summarizes the development and dyno tests. If you don't have to have 50's/early 60's pop music in the background when watching a car video... you may like this !

The charts are in there, and are legible if you run the video in full screen. You can stop the video at any point, to see the numbers.

ErikSS454 · 05-01-2013, 10:28 AM

Wow!! Job well done. That is awsome to see...a true hot rodder!!

Dion Hildebrandt · 05-01-2013, 10:48 AM

Very nice...so you didnt say Aubrey, what was your overall feeling for the end result?

Harry 6674 · 05-01-2013, 11:12 AM

Wow. Very impressive. What a huge undertaking. Congrats.

Greg Reimer 7376 · 05-01-2013, 11:19 AM

I heard you were interested in possibly selling these manifolds.What would be the approximate price for them, and are they available in large port( 690 head or Edelbrock head) versions as well as the small port version?

treessavoy · 05-01-2013, 11:21 AM

Amazing job, that's a real hot rodder!

JimR

Aubrey N Bruneau · 05-01-2013, 11:34 AM

thanks again, guys.
Dion... nobody has ever asked that ? !
Leading up to it, was so stressful, that I was actually having chest pains !
When the Edelbrock Performer put 35 HP on the stock intake ?
The stress really set it ! HOW the heck could a manifold change do more than that ?
First pull with my intake, had a "glitch" / stumble.
More stress.
Second pull... 465 torque, 462 HP
Disbelief !
Because I was still in a postion to finalize the carburetor height of the casting, we tried a couple different spacers. 1" open, then a 2" phenolic 4 hole.
1" did nothing. 2" made a few more HP, but gave up mid range torque.
Relieved
Seemed that just as cast, was best scenario ( I'm not that good.... just got lucky ! )
So, cooled the engine down a bit, and did a last pull a couple hundred RPM higher.
466.6 ft lb torque @ 4200
465.8 HP @ 5800

Still a little disbelief. Quite frankly, the A/F ratio numbers are so steady, I'm uncomfortable even posting them. Doesn't look real.

To me, I think the angle of approach to these goofy, almost horizontal intake ports in the heads, can be looked after, ONLY with a single plane manifold that accomodates them.
That, I believe, is why it worked.

Hopefully, this helps level the playing field for guys with these engines, using small port heads. A modest, hot-street build, should be able to make 500 HP. Comparable to a similar built oval port BBC. That has never been able to happen before.

Ed Wright · 05-01-2013, 12:01 PM

Impressive! Congrats!

Tom Goldman · 05-01-2013, 01:13 PM

Aubrey, that is really cool.
Having raced orphen engines myself ,I have a special appreciation for someone who goes to these lengths to race their combo.
Congratulations!

05-01-2013, 09:47 AM	#11
bigdaddy4026 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: down on the bayou! louisiana Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Made an Engine Part ! all i will say is that is a very cool story and good job! i an 40 and i have only saw 2 motors like this that the same guy owned very cool to say the least! __________________ as long as the kids are having fun thats all that matters!!!! aaron knight

05-01-2013, 10:15 AM	#12
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: I Made an Engine Part ! Guys, and Gals... I'm having trouble even locating these scans ! ? ! I made a compilation video that summarizes the development and dyno tests. If you don't have to have 50's/early 60's pop music in the background when watching a car video... you may like this ! The charts are in there, and are legible if you run the video in full screen. You can stop the video at any point, to see the numbers. __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

05-01-2013, 10:28 AM	#13
ErikSS454 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Rushford, MN Posts: 16 Likes: 9 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: I Made an Engine Part ! Wow!! Job well done. That is awsome to see...a true hot rodder!!

05-01-2013, 10:48 AM	#14
Dion Hildebrandt Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 383 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Made an Engine Part ! Very nice...so you didnt say Aubrey, what was your overall feeling for the end result? __________________ Dion Hildebrandt 6009 STK H/SA

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Harry 6674 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 589 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Made an Engine Part ! Wow. Very impressive. What a huge undertaking. Congrats.

05-01-2013, 11:19 AM	#16
Greg Reimer 7376 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora,Calif. Posts: 1,135 Likes: 172 Liked 704 Times in 218 Posts	Re: I Made an Engine Part ! I heard you were interested in possibly selling these manifolds.What would be the approximate price for them, and are they available in large port( 690 head or Edelbrock head) versions as well as the small port version?

05-01-2013, 11:21 AM	#17
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: I Made an Engine Part ! Amazing job, that's a real hot rodder! JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

05-01-2013, 11:34 AM	#18
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: I Made an Engine Part ! thanks again, guys. Dion... nobody has ever asked that ? ! Leading up to it, was so stressful, that I was actually having chest pains ! When the Edelbrock Performer put 35 HP on the stock intake ? The stress really set it ! HOW the heck could a manifold change do more than that ? First pull with my intake, had a "glitch" / stumble. More stress. Second pull... 465 torque, 462 HP Disbelief ! Because I was still in a postion to finalize the carburetor height of the casting, we tried a couple different spacers. 1" open, then a 2" phenolic 4 hole. 1" did nothing. 2" made a few more HP, but gave up mid range torque. Relieved Seemed that just as cast, was best scenario ( I'm not that good.... just got lucky ! ) So, cooled the engine down a bit, and did a last pull a couple hundred RPM higher. 466.6 ft lb torque @ 4200 465.8 HP @ 5800 Still a little disbelief. Quite frankly, the A/F ratio numbers are so steady, I'm uncomfortable even posting them. Doesn't look real. To me, I think the angle of approach to these goofy, almost horizontal intake ports in the heads, can be looked after, ONLY with a single plane manifold that accomodates them. That, I believe, is why it worked. Hopefully, this helps level the playing field for guys with these engines, using small port heads. A modest, hot-street build, should be able to make 500 HP. Comparable to a similar built oval port BBC. That has never been able to happen before. __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

05-01-2013, 12:01 PM	#19
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: I Made an Engine Part ! Impressive! Congrats! __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

05-01-2013, 01:13 PM	#20
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,474 Likes: 885 Liked 859 Times in 234 Posts	Re: I Made an Engine Part ! Aubrey, that is really cool. Having raced orphen engines myself ,I have a special appreciation for someone who goes to these lengths to race their combo. Congratulations! __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK