possible found 65 afx car - Page 2

Charlie A · 03-08-2012, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimi

this is a good one for moose and paul, i had i friend call me today to tell me he bought a 55 thunderbird from a lady in putnam county she has 12 more cars some chevrolets and some mopars , the one he called me about is a white 65 belvedere awb car and it had the number "666" on the side or some where on the car. anyone remember any 65 a990's or awb's with some reference to the # he has told me about? this womans husband was a collector and all of these cars are in need of restoration, hopefully in the next few days i can get to her house to see the cars myself.

Would love to see some pics of the reported car.

Likely a well intended clone, but what if.........?

Found this from HRM "Match Bash" article.

bert powell · 03-08-2012, 12:37 PM

On a side note, anyone know anything about a 64 Dodge A/FX car called Lucifer? Ran out of Ohio.

marfen · 03-08-2012, 02:22 PM

Better go get her Jimi. probably the black arrow I'll bet.

Hemi Moose · 03-08-2012, 05:29 PM

I guess some body parts such as fenders or maybe some glass might have been saved over the years but as far as the original Black Arrow '65 A990 it is history...notice the new # on the car when Doc Burgess had it.

Charlie A · 03-08-2012, 05:29 PM

Self deleted.

My wife wishes I would do that for real!!!!!

DRAKE VISCOME · 03-08-2012, 09:03 PM

Hey Jimi...you "know" the advertising about calling your doctor...if you have a "issue" after 4 hours

...keep your cell phone handy...the "Black Arrow" was purchased by the Smrtic family from Doc...re-named and raced as "Storm King"...all...is very well documented on the www.doverdragstrip.com website...(Doc's and their (Smrtics') home track...there are no people on the planet more honest than Bill & Gary Smrtic...they easily could have re-created this car...many times for personal ($$$) gain...their integrity...just wouldn't allow it 'eh...you can contact Bill via e-mail...wssmrtic@yahoo.com...for any question (s) you might have...I hope indeed that is a good hemi car (you've been contacted about)...and you can make lots of $$$...but the original "Black Arrow"...it ain't "hoss"

....Dave Parent of Mahopac (Putnam County) had a original 65 hemi car...which he purchased brand new from Coppola Motors of Fairfield,CT...last I "knew" he still had car (5-6 years ago)...it was beige...and he still was living... he also had a good collection of cars...but his car...had absolutely no race "history" at all...never saw dragstrip...best of luck...hope it all "works"....

Drake Viscome

Hemi Moose · 03-08-2012, 09:55 PM

Here's a nice clone of the original '65 Black Arrow A990 Plymouth...

Charlie A · 03-08-2012, 10:19 PM

No one ever expected these cars to live forever. Nothing wrong with a period correct clone AS LONG AS IT IS DISCLOSED as a clone.
Reproducing one would be a major and expensive undertaking.
Restoring or cloning,.
if you're going to do it, do it correctly.

DRAKE VISCOME · 03-08-2012, 10:38 PM

Hey Guys...I have no ax to grind about period cars...whether they be original or "clone"...do have slight anal "twitch"/not much/any patience...with regard to phony "story-telling"/fabricating/creating...about them though ( yeah...I know there are 8 million stories...in the "Naked City")

...U...get the "idea"...also don't have much/any sympathy...for non-"real" racer guys (just "cats" with $$$)...who just have the "means" to buy/own without the true "passion"...as I see it...for these type cars /period (that they well deserve)...the "good news" for me...is...I been most fortunate to have owned/raced a bunch...with a "pile" of 'em...and have...the means..if I chose to exercise them...to currently purchase such...for me...it's kinda' like a old girlfriend...think/ be grateful of the good times gone by (i.e. hula-hoop...poodle skirt)...choose to live... keep moving forward...'eh

Drake

Charlie A · 03-08-2012, 11:06 PM

No issues here.
I remember drooling around them as a teenager.
Love this forum because it allows your memories to verify the dreams I had as a kid.

As close as I ever got to a real one (I was 15) was a 64 Dodge 330 2dr sedan with a 318 and push buttons.
Was going to paint it orange and mount a set of keystones and the proper stance.
But....could not come up with the purchase price and my dad would not loan me the difference.
Of the "wish I still could" cars, it's at the top.

.....just add Keystones. And me.

03-08-2012, 12:37 PM	#12
bert powell Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 243 Likes: 36 Liked 34 Times in 12 Posts	Re: possible found 65 afx car On a side note, anyone know anything about a 64 Dodge A/FX car called Lucifer? Ran out of Ohio.

03-08-2012, 02:22 PM	#13
marfen Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 208 Likes: 0 Liked 16 Times in 9 Posts	Re: possible found 65 afx car Better go get her Jimi. probably the black arrow I'll bet.

03-08-2012, 05:29 PM	#14
Hemi Moose VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,824 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: possible found 65 afx car I guess some body parts such as fenders or maybe some glass might have been saved over the years but as far as the original Black Arrow '65 A990 it is history...notice the new # on the car when Doc Burgess had it. Last edited by Hemi Moose; 03-08-2012 at 05:45 PM.

03-08-2012, 05:29 PM	#15
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: possible found 65 afx car Self deleted. My wife wishes I would do that for real!!!!! Last edited by Charlie A; 03-08-2012 at 09:05 PM.

03-08-2012, 09:03 PM	#16
DRAKE VISCOME Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 277 Likes: 204 Liked 92 Times in 36 Posts	Re: possible found 65 afx car Hey Jimi...you "know" the advertising about calling your doctor...if you have a "issue" after 4 hours...keep your cell phone handy...the "Black Arrow" was purchased by the Smrtic family from Doc...re-named and raced as "Storm King"...all...is very well documented on the www.doverdragstrip.com website...(Doc's and their (Smrtics') home track...there are no people on the planet more honest than Bill & Gary Smrtic...they easily could have re-created this car...many times for personal ($$$) gain...their integrity...just wouldn't allow it 'eh...you can contact Bill via e-mail...wssmrtic@yahoo.com...for any question (s) you might have...I hope indeed that is a good hemi car (you've been contacted about)...and you can make lots of $$$...but the original "Black Arrow"...it ain't "hoss"....Dave Parent of Mahopac (Putnam County) had a original 65 hemi car...which he purchased brand new from Coppola Motors of Fairfield,CT...last I "knew" he still had car (5-6 years ago)...it was beige...and he still was living... he also had a good collection of cars...but his car...had absolutely no race "history" at all...never saw dragstrip...best of luck...hope it all "works"....Drake Viscome

03-08-2012, 09:55 PM	#17
Hemi Moose VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,824 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: possible found 65 afx car Here's a nice clone of the original '65 Black Arrow A990 Plymouth...

03-08-2012, 10:19 PM	#18
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: possible found 65 afx car No one ever expected these cars to live forever. Nothing wrong with a period correct clone AS LONG AS IT IS DISCLOSED as a clone. Reproducing one would be a major and expensive undertaking. Restoring or cloning,. if you're going to do it, do it correctly. Last edited by Charlie A; 03-08-2012 at 10:26 PM.

03-08-2012, 10:38 PM	#19
DRAKE VISCOME Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 277 Likes: 204 Liked 92 Times in 36 Posts	Re: possible found 65 afx car Hey Guys...I have no ax to grind about period cars...whether they be original or "clone"...do have slight anal "twitch"/not much/any patience...with regard to phony "story-telling"/fabricating/creating...about them though ( yeah...I know there are 8 million stories...in the "Naked City") ...U...get the "idea"...also don't have much/any sympathy...for non-"real" racer guys (just "cats" with $$$)...who just have the "means" to buy/own without the true "passion"...as I see it...for these type cars /period (that they well deserve)...the "good news" for me...is...I been most fortunate to have owned/raced a bunch...with a "pile" of 'em...and have...the means..if I chose to exercise them...to currently purchase such...for me...it's kinda' like a old girlfriend...think/ be grateful of the good times gone by (i.e. hula-hoop...poodle skirt)...choose to live... keep moving forward...'eh Drake Last edited by DRAKE VISCOME; 03-09-2012 at 08:14 AM. Reason: spelling

03-08-2012, 11:06 PM	#20
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: possible found 65 afx car No issues here. I remember drooling around them as a teenager. Love this forum because it allows your memories to verify the dreams I had as a kid. As close as I ever got to a real one (I was 15) was a 64 Dodge 330 2dr sedan with a 318 and push buttons. Was going to paint it orange and mount a set of keystones and the proper stance. But....could not come up with the purchase price and my dad would not loan me the difference. Of the "wish I still could" cars, it's at the top. .....just add Keystones. And me. Last edited by Charlie A; 03-08-2012 at 11:20 PM.