68 Camaro 6cyl. stocker need help! - Page 2

Bobby Zlatkin · 01-05-2011, 07:00 PM

I think you're better off with the 250. 20 more cu. in. and only 5 HP more. Everything else is the same, i.e. head, intake, cam, carb.

Only thing, I don't know if you can add enough weight to run V. If it has to run W it's a loser idea having to run against the 8 cyl. cars. How do I know? I tried it and realized I was beating my head against the wall. But that was way back when 8 cyl cars (damn 273 Mopar station wagons) could run V and when it was a 21 lb. class.

As Mark said, not a great combo. What's weak about it? The carb is too small.

Billy Nees · 01-05-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

There's one "weird " guy here that can help you a lot. He'll show up soon!

Mark, as one "weird" guy to another, I prefer "eccentric".
Anthony, you can send me a PM and I will let you in on what you'll need.
P.S. I'd love to see that car with a 4 speed in V/S.

Mark Yacavone · 01-05-2011, 08:17 PM

Bob, it's 15 more hp > 140 factory vs 155
.280 stroke is all you get . Not worth 300 lbs

(same carb on 230, smaller motor)

THE LEGEND · 01-05-2011, 09:00 PM

The reason I would not build a crate motor car where you live is MONEY. Unless you have one the lottery you can't compete against those UNDERATED MOPARS. You can't hide from them either because they run nearly every class.
Chip Johnson

cad · 01-05-2011, 09:26 PM

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anthony.walton · 01-05-2011, 10:17 PM

Thanks guys keep the suggestions coming, I'm on a tight schedule and got lots of work to do. Car needs some TLC before its ready for a 6cyl. stock debut. Let me know anything you think will help me, like I said I like listening!
Anthony Walton
Walton Racing Promotions
www.coastalplainsraceway.com

greg fulk · 01-06-2011, 03:44 AM

in IHRA the 250 is 140hp & the 230 is 135 hp Mark.....that being said the 250 crank is a good 18Lbs heavier!!!!! THE 250 WILL NOT RUN WITH THE 230 EVEN @ THE SAME WEIGHT! All the pistons that are approved for the 283 are also approved for the 230 ....the 250 has like 3 pistons to chose from....Now then what money do you want to spend???? I can tell you what to buy ....but it's not a cheap combo (if you want to go fast....it you want to run the index VERY cheap)

anthony.walton · 01-06-2011, 06:32 AM

I want to be able to run the index with no problem. How can I get in touch with you. My cell is 910-382-6723 for anyone that has suggestions.
Thanks
Anthony Walton
Walton Racing Promotions
www.coastalplainsraceway.com

Bobby Zlatkin · 01-06-2011, 11:40 AM

You're right Mark. I see NHRA still has the '68 250 rated at 155 HP.
My '73 is only rated at 145 and I assumed that would be accross the board.
In that case, yes the 230 would be a much better choice.
IHRA has only a 5 HP difference between the two motors.
And Billy's right about he'd like to see it with a 4 speed.
When I changed my '69 Nova from an automatic to a stick, it picked up .5ths & a little over 2 MPH. And that was going to a 3 speed manual. The Camaro is allowed a 4 speed.

Don Himes · 01-06-2011, 02:46 PM

Anthony.......here's the deal.........if you don't contact Billy, then there's nothing else to say, because he's not only the first word or last word on the Chevy six for stock......HE'S THE ONLY WORD...........period..........contact him, now!!!!!!

01-05-2011, 07:00 PM	#11
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 68 Camaro 6cyl. stocker need help! I think you're better off with the 250. 20 more cu. in. and only 5 HP more. Everything else is the same, i.e. head, intake, cam, carb. Only thing, I don't know if you can add enough weight to run V. If it has to run W it's a loser idea having to run against the 8 cyl. cars. How do I know? I tried it and realized I was beating my head against the wall. But that was way back when 8 cyl cars (damn 273 Mopar station wagons) could run V and when it was a 21 lb. class. As Mark said, not a great combo. What's weak about it? The carb is too small. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

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Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,807 Likes: 2,897 Liked 5,108 Times in 1,947 Posts	Re: 68 Camaro 6cyl. stocker need help! Bob, it's 15 more hp > 140 factory vs 155 .280 stroke is all you get . Not worth 300 lbs (same carb on 230, smaller motor) __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

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THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 68 Camaro 6cyl. stocker need help! The reason I would not build a crate motor car where you live is MONEY. Unless you have one the lottery you can't compete against those UNDERATED MOPARS. You can't hide from them either because they run nearly every class. Chip Johnson

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anthony.walton Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 31 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 68 Camaro 6cyl. stocker need help! Thanks guys keep the suggestions coming, I'm on a tight schedule and got lots of work to do. Car needs some TLC before its ready for a 6cyl. stock debut. Let me know anything you think will help me, like I said I like listening! Anthony Walton Walton Racing Promotions www.coastalplainsraceway.com

01-06-2011, 03:44 AM	#17
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 68 Camaro 6cyl. stocker need help! in IHRA the 250 is 140hp & the 230 is 135 hp Mark.....that being said the 250 crank is a good 18Lbs heavier!!!!! THE 250 WILL NOT RUN WITH THE 230 EVEN @ THE SAME WEIGHT! All the pistons that are approved for the 283 are also approved for the 230 ....the 250 has like 3 pistons to chose from....Now then what money do you want to spend???? I can tell you what to buy ....but it's not a cheap combo (if you want to go fast....it you want to run the index VERY cheap) __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

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anthony.walton Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 31 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 68 Camaro 6cyl. stocker need help! I want to be able to run the index with no problem. How can I get in touch with you. My cell is 910-382-6723 for anyone that has suggestions. Thanks Anthony Walton Walton Racing Promotions www.coastalplainsraceway.com

01-06-2011, 11:40 AM	#19
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 68 Camaro 6cyl. stocker need help! You're right Mark. I see NHRA still has the '68 250 rated at 155 HP. My '73 is only rated at 145 and I assumed that would be accross the board. In that case, yes the 230 would be a much better choice. IHRA has only a 5 HP difference between the two motors. And Billy's right about he'd like to see it with a 4 speed. When I changed my '69 Nova from an automatic to a stick, it picked up .5ths & a little over 2 MPH. And that was going to a 3 speed manual. The Camaro is allowed a 4 speed. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

01-06-2011, 02:46 PM	#20
Don Himes Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Port Charlotte, Fla. Posts: 160 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 68 Camaro 6cyl. stocker need help! Anthony.......here's the deal.........if you don't contact Billy, then there's nothing else to say, because he's not only the first word or last word on the Chevy six for stock......HE'S THE ONLY WORD...........period..........contact him, now!!!!!! __________________ Don Himes 2075