DQ in super stock - Page 2

ATI Performance Products · 09-07-2015, 04:57 PM

They checked us with our COPO at englishtown 2 yrs ago. It was a tape measure and engine was half way apart. Maybe if it was really close to being not correct they would break out a better fixture. I wish they would check items like this more often. These things and many others like it are checked twice a race at any sort of oval track race you enter.

dwydendorf · 09-07-2015, 05:57 PM

I have seen wheelbase checked 2 different ways in teardown. The last time I watched, the tech guys had a piece of aluminum about 15 inches long by 3 inches wide that had a mark in the center, held it against the wheel and measured by tape measure to the front spindle. Another time they put the edge of the tape measure on the front or back of the rear wheel and measured to the corresponding spot on the front wheel. They also made sure the wheels were straight before starting. I have also seen the tech guys measure the front and rear overhang(to the end of the car) but I have never seen a spec on this.

Bryan Broaddus · 09-08-2015, 10:20 PM

Why don't they make it part of the Tech inspection BEFORE the race? Its on the tech card and a simple tape measure would do the trick!
I know the Bell camp was very disappointed!! They deserved the #1 qualifier spot

tim worner · 09-09-2015, 10:47 AM

Sometimes it depends on who holds which end of the tape

Jeff Teuton · 09-09-2015, 12:59 PM

Wheel Base is part of the package. We had to shorten our cars slightly last year because it looked real good, but was about 1/4 too long. Now they are correct. A funny wheel base story; a few years I raced trucks in Stock. I had a long and short wheel base. I let this guy who works for me race the truck with the long base. We are in Indy and naturally both trucks are in tear down. We are finished with mine and ready to fire his and the NHRA tech folks are measuring the base. I am busy, but listening and one calls the measurement to the other. It was 129", so I stopped what I am doing and step back and look. The guy had moved the rear wheels 6 inches forward. I almost died. The wheel wells are so big it didn't show unless you were looking. The true w/b is 135 inches. They didn't notice and he got the trophy and got to race some more. Needless we had a come see Jesus meeting after we got back to the pits.

Peter Ash · 09-09-2015, 01:37 PM

Are wheelbase measurements done in an "as raced" condition on a level surface, with the driver weight in the seat?

09-07-2015, 04:57 PM	#11
ATI Performance Products Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Maryland Posts: 67 Likes: 0 Liked 9 Times in 1 Post	Re: DQ in super stock They checked us with our COPO at englishtown 2 yrs ago. It was a tape measure and engine was half way apart. Maybe if it was really close to being not correct they would break out a better fixture. I wish they would check items like this more often. These things and many others like it are checked twice a race at any sort of oval track race you enter. __________________ ATI Racing

09-07-2015, 05:57 PM	#12
dwydendorf Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 162 Likes: 251 Liked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Re: DQ in super stock I have seen wheelbase checked 2 different ways in teardown. The last time I watched, the tech guys had a piece of aluminum about 15 inches long by 3 inches wide that had a mark in the center, held it against the wheel and measured by tape measure to the front spindle. Another time they put the edge of the tape measure on the front or back of the rear wheel and measured to the corresponding spot on the front wheel. They also made sure the wheels were straight before starting. I have also seen the tech guys measure the front and rear overhang(to the end of the car) but I have never seen a spec on this. __________________ ss/gt 93 t-bird

09-08-2015, 10:20 PM	#13
Bryan Broaddus Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 102 Likes: 1 Liked 18 Times in 3 Posts	Re: DQ in super stock Why don't they make it part of the Tech inspection BEFORE the race? Its on the tech card and a simple tape measure would do the trick! I know the Bell camp was very disappointed!! They deserved the #1 qualifier spot __________________ Bryan Broaddus 7568 STK ,SS

09-09-2015, 10:47 AM	#14
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Re: DQ in super stock Sometimes it depends on who holds which end of the tape __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

09-09-2015, 12:59 PM	#15
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 326 Times in 50 Posts	Re: DQ in super stock Wheel Base is part of the package. We had to shorten our cars slightly last year because it looked real good, but was about 1/4 too long. Now they are correct. A funny wheel base story; a few years I raced trucks in Stock. I had a long and short wheel base. I let this guy who works for me race the truck with the long base. We are in Indy and naturally both trucks are in tear down. We are finished with mine and ready to fire his and the NHRA tech folks are measuring the base. I am busy, but listening and one calls the measurement to the other. It was 129", so I stopped what I am doing and step back and look. The guy had moved the rear wheels 6 inches forward. I almost died. The wheel wells are so big it didn't show unless you were looking. The true w/b is 135 inches. They didn't notice and he got the trophy and got to race some more. Needless we had a come see Jesus meeting after we got back to the pits. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

09-09-2015, 01:37 PM	#16
Peter Ash Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 262 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: DQ in super stock Are wheelbase measurements done in an "as raced" condition on a level surface, with the driver weight in the seat? __________________ Peter Ash 6100 STK