8100 Tuner - Page 2

BTR69 · 10-24-2024, 11:22 PM

Good evening. Adger, I'm curious about your results with this, assuming you got yours programmed. I have a 98 3500HD, 454 with older whipplecharger. Swapping the computer out and the shop working on it says it's running like crap. They feel it's due to the stock tune not working with the supercharger. I'm looking for someone that can help my guys get this thing under control.

Adger Smith · 10-25-2024, 03:45 AM

After I bought my low mileage 2002 8100 WD 3500 I had some serious health issues and have just been using it between the house and farm. (no racing.. 44' LQGN sitting.. Just toating the Kubota) Soon after I got it in 2016 I noticed some issues with it missing and sometimes it died. I changed to the updated Crank position sensor and all problems went away. I have made a couple long trips in it. The longest from NE Texas/SW Arkansas to Minnesota. April of 2023 I delivered an engine to Ringgold Ga. while I was there I stopped at RED and Ronnie loaded down my 30 ft goosneck with 36 SBC engine blocks and several BBC blocks. It did well going back to Texarkana. Loaded and at Interstate speeds it averaged 9.75 MPG on the way home. I had a tune that ED Wright had sent to me, but had a comuter crash and lost it.. that was just after we had lost Ed. This truck really has served me well. It is nearing 58,000 miles on it. I still plan on doing some mods to it, but I just haven't taken the time.
Alan, I was wondering if you still had that 8100 engine and Trans I delivered to you. If anyone has an update on the tuning of the 8100 let's keep this thread going?

BTR69 · 10-25-2024, 09:28 PM

I looked online into the Black Bear that Alan mentioned earlier in this thread. I've also been questioning others recently on this as well, and I've been hearing about 0411 PCM swap. Seems more folks prefer the 0411 to Black Bear. According to folks I spoke with today, it's more user/tuner friendly. I was advised to get a base tune, then get to a chassis dyno for a more specific tune. I'm pretty computer illiterate with these things, so having to rely on others for this project. Really hoping this gets the truck squared away.

Greg West · 10-26-2024, 10:19 AM

Kevin Winstead at Big Dog Tuning may be able to help.

Barry Polley · 10-26-2024, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

Adger,

As Alan stated, be careful with the torque limiting.
I have learned that the limiting was done to also extend the life of the transmission.

I own a 2002 Silverado LS Dually, 2WD. I purchased the Moroso wires and used NGK plugs and also use the Wix 51515XP oil filter since it is a 2WD. Switched to Mobil 1 Truck & SUV Synthetic oil and the oil consumption also dropped. With the larger oil filter, you have to add an additional quart of oil. If you truck is a 4x4, you cannot use the larger oil filter.

Try the Delvac Mobile 1 Allison fluid, it sheds heat better than any fluid we?ve seen.
If you can get an Allison trans I?d do that. If a fireman can?t break them they are bullet proof!

Adger Smith · 10-26-2024, 02:53 PM

Barry,
Mine has the Allison 1000 series With my load and the "Tow" button on the shifter activated I have never seen the Trans temp gauge go high, even with the load of engine blocks. I'm assuming the trans temp should stay under the engine water temp. Water temp is never over 210. I really like the Transmission braking feature of the Allison. I think the up shift points are a little high, even when not in tow mode. I've been thinking about doing a Transmission & rearend service this winter. I have read up on the transmission and seems like they use a special fluid. I've been using AMSOil in my other trucks and was considering making a change. The truck had a Quaker State
Sticker on it with mileage for changes. I have used Q-state on all my changes. There is a little more oil consumption than I like...Thinking about making a change and see what happens.

Adger Smith · 10-26-2024, 04:20 PM

Pete Perry look what I found:

CHEVYHD496
619 posts ? Joined 2009

#7 ? Aug 21, 2011
be careful with the drive by wire tables. some trucks the throttle will hang open
02' Chevy 2500HD 496

SSDiv6 · 10-26-2024, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

Barry,
Mine has the Allison 1000 series With my load and the "Tow" button on the shifter activated I have never seen the Trans temp gauge go high, even with the load of engine blocks. I'm assuming the trans temp should stay under the engine water temp. Water temp is never over 210. I really like the Transmission braking feature of the Allison. I think the up shift points are a little high, even when not in tow mode. I've been thinking about doing a Transmission & rearend service this winter. I have read up on the transmission and seems like they use a special fluid. I've been using AMSOil in my other trucks and was considering making a change. The truck had a Quaker State
Sticker on it with mileage for changes. I have used Q-state on all my changes. There is a little more oil consumption than I like...Thinking about making a change and see what happens.

Adger,
I had mine serviced and flushed recently and switched to the Transynd 668 fluid.
The shifting improved dramatically with smooth and firm shifts.

Bob F · 10-28-2024, 04:17 PM

There?s a place in Perkasie Pa that might do it.
That is not far from Maple grove I think.
I?m not sure the would do a shipped in ecu though.

Brandon Davis · 10-31-2024, 08:48 AM

I used Rocket Chip on my 8.1L motorhome. Saw improved torque and throttle response. $99 and plus into the OBD port very simple.

10-24-2024, 11:22 PM	#11
BTR69 Junior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 90 Likes: 128 Liked 60 Times in 17 Posts	Re: 8100 Tuner Good evening. Adger, I'm curious about your results with this, assuming you got yours programmed. I have a 98 3500HD, 454 with older whipplecharger. Swapping the computer out and the shop working on it says it's running like crap. They feel it's due to the stock tune not working with the supercharger. I'm looking for someone that can help my guys get this thing under control. __________________ William Kilduff 1970 Barracuda (still under construction, indefinitely) 1968 Camaro SS/C Last edited by BTR69; 10-24-2024 at 11:29 PM.

10-25-2024, 03:45 AM	#12
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,418 Likes: 518 Liked 776 Times in 293 Posts	Re: 8100 Tuner After I bought my low mileage 2002 8100 WD 3500 I had some serious health issues and have just been using it between the house and farm. (no racing.. 44' LQGN sitting.. Just toating the Kubota) Soon after I got it in 2016 I noticed some issues with it missing and sometimes it died. I changed to the updated Crank position sensor and all problems went away. I have made a couple long trips in it. The longest from NE Texas/SW Arkansas to Minnesota. April of 2023 I delivered an engine to Ringgold Ga. while I was there I stopped at RED and Ronnie loaded down my 30 ft goosneck with 36 SBC engine blocks and several BBC blocks. It did well going back to Texarkana. Loaded and at Interstate speeds it averaged 9.75 MPG on the way home. I had a tune that ED Wright had sent to me, but had a comuter crash and lost it.. that was just after we had lost Ed. This truck really has served me well. It is nearing 58,000 miles on it. I still plan on doing some mods to it, but I just haven't taken the time. Alan, I was wondering if you still had that 8100 engine and Trans I delivered to you. If anyone has an update on the tuning of the 8100 let's keep this thread going? __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

10-25-2024, 09:28 PM	#13
BTR69 Junior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 90 Likes: 128 Liked 60 Times in 17 Posts	Re: 8100 Tuner I looked online into the Black Bear that Alan mentioned earlier in this thread. I've also been questioning others recently on this as well, and I've been hearing about 0411 PCM swap. Seems more folks prefer the 0411 to Black Bear. According to folks I spoke with today, it's more user/tuner friendly. I was advised to get a base tune, then get to a chassis dyno for a more specific tune. I'm pretty computer illiterate with these things, so having to rely on others for this project. Really hoping this gets the truck squared away. __________________ William Kilduff 1970 Barracuda (still under construction, indefinitely) 1968 Camaro SS/C

10-26-2024, 10:19 AM	#14
Greg West Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 58 Likes: 15 Liked 48 Times in 20 Posts	Re: 8100 Tuner Kevin Winstead at Big Dog Tuning may be able to help.

10-26-2024, 02:53 PM	#16
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,418 Likes: 518 Liked 776 Times in 293 Posts	Re: 8100 Tuner Barry, Mine has the Allison 1000 series With my load and the "Tow" button on the shifter activated I have never seen the Trans temp gauge go high, even with the load of engine blocks. I'm assuming the trans temp should stay under the engine water temp. Water temp is never over 210. I really like the Transmission braking feature of the Allison. I think the up shift points are a little high, even when not in tow mode. I've been thinking about doing a Transmission & rearend service this winter. I have read up on the transmission and seems like they use a special fluid. I've been using AMSOil in my other trucks and was considering making a change. The truck had a Quaker State Sticker on it with mileage for changes. I have used Q-state on all my changes. There is a little more oil consumption than I like...Thinking about making a change and see what happens. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

10-26-2024, 04:20 PM	#17
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,418 Likes: 518 Liked 776 Times in 293 Posts	Re: 8100 Tuner Pete Perry look what I found: CHEVYHD496 619 posts ? Joined 2009 #7 ? Aug 21, 2011 be careful with the drive by wire tables. some trucks the throttle will hang open 02' Chevy 2500HD 496 __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 10-26-2024 at 04:22 PM. Reason: sp

10-28-2024, 04:17 PM	#19
Bob F Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bucks Co Pa Posts: 68 Likes: 16 Liked 14 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 8100 Tuner There?s a place in Perkasie Pa that might do it. That is not far from Maple grove I think. I?m not sure the would do a shipped in ecu though.

10-31-2024, 08:48 AM	#20
Brandon Davis Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 25 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 8100 Tuner I used Rocket Chip on my 8.1L motorhome. Saw improved torque and throttle response. $99 and plus into the OBD port very simple.