Older Superstock GT cars with scoops

[SStockDart]

Here is a qualifying effort from Jim Hale's 68 Barracuda (Original Hemi with scoop and lightweights) and a 383 engine.

22 4406 GT/EA Jim Hale, Van Buren AR, '68 Barracuda 10.143 10.95 -0.807

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Philip Saran

OK, on this same vain, would or is the fiberglass hood scoop off
a 1973/74 Dodge Dart legal for a same year Plymouth Duster??

I would say definetly not. That would be cross-breeding of body parts.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

Here is a qualifying effort from Jim Hale's 68 Barracuda (Original Hemi with scoop and lightweights) and a 383 engine.

22 4406 GT/EA Jim Hale, Van Buren AR, '68 Barracuda 10.143 10.95 -0.807

Know which 383 that is? I would like to see a '62 383/343 2x4 in a Hemi A-body with all the lite-weight parts and open scoop. Think of a 383 with a full sized tunnel ram in SS!
I still say the open scoop would be legal as the Hemi scoop was an open scoop body part as an OEM piece.

[Mark Yacavone]

Jeff, If infact you had a 68 hemi car and had to tape over the scoop, then why would you want a big ol' scoop sticking up? If you were to remove it, would you then have to replace all the liteweight seats and glass and such?
I'm with you though. If you run the hemi body and shipping weight, then you ought to be able to run it the way it came.
Doesn't matter what we say or think anyway. They're gonna do any GD thing they want with the rules.

[Chris DeGidio]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Know which 383 that is? I would like to see a '62 383/343 2x4 in a Hemi A-body with all the lite-weight parts and open scoop. Think of a 383 with a full sized tunnel ram in SS!
I still say the open scoop would be legal as the Hemi scoop was an open scoop body part as an OEM piece.

I'm real sure he runs the 1967 383 combo and that the scoop is open.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Jeff, If infact you had a 68 hemi car and had to tape over the scoop, then why would you want a big ol' scoop sticking up? If you were to remove it, would you then have to replace all the liteweight seats and glass and such?
I'm with you though. If you run the hemi body and shipping weight, then you ought to be able to run it the way it came.
Doesn't matter what we say or think anyway. They're gonna do any GD thing they want with the rules.

I would think if part of an OEM body package it should be all or nothing. But then again, if somebody wanted to build a clone '68 Hemi A-body for SS, NHRA probably woudn't care if you had the lite-weight parts as you would only be placing yourself at a disadvantage.

So out of curiousity what weight / class would a 273/235 fall into using a Hemi A-Body?

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

I would think if part of an OEM body package it should be all or nothing. But then again, if somebody wanted to build a clone '68 Hemi A-body for SS, NHRA probably woudn't care if you had the lite-weight parts as you would only be placing yourself at a disadvantage.

So out of curiousity what weight / class would a 273/235 fall into using a Hemi A-Body?

Without looking it up ,I'd say 13 # ....whatever that is. GT/L?

[Shawn Blair]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Jeff, If infact you had a 68 hemi car and had to tape over the scoop, then why would you want a big ol' scoop sticking up? If you were to remove it, would you then have to replace all the liteweight seats and glass and such?
I'm with you though. If you run the hemi body and shipping weight, then you ought to be able to run it the way it came.
Doesn't matter what we say or think anyway. They're gonna do any GD thing they want with the rules.

One good reason for the scoop would be carb clearance, this would be a good thing if running the 1962 343horse 383 combo with a tunnel ram. I'm still waiting to see that one! It would have to be fast with those two carbs.

[Bud Lefevre]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

Here is a qualifying effort from Jim Hale's 68 Barracuda (Original Hemi with scoop and lightweights) and a 383 engine.

22 4406 GT/EA Jim Hale, Van Buren AR, '68 Barracuda 10.143 10.95 -0.807

Could that be a 70 383 claimed as a Challenger or Cuda with fresh air ?

How about a 340 6pk motor, it had fresh air.

[Angelo DiTocco]

I can see where there could be some confusion. When the NHRA opened up the GT rule a year or two ago, they allow any year body to be run as a GT class car if a different year or different from "factory equipped" engine combo was used. Prior to that change, the rule stated that the body of a GT car had to be 1980 or newer. Now it is any year, although I have only noticed a few instances where this was applied and an older body was used in GT. I could be wrong, but I doubt anyone will see something like a 68 Hemi-Cuda body with a different engine, run as a GT car. If someone did though, they would have to close up the hood scoop if the motor they used did not originally come with a fresh air system.

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