Stock suggestion #3 - Page 2

442OLDS · 09-11-2014, 07:27 PM

I think all of these "suggestions" were primarily about INDY.There was a Factory Stock Class that did not have to worry about getting horsepower.

I think the reason that they did this was to prevent a bunch of cars shutting off early like a lot of older cars do.Keep REAL racing.However,"most" old cars can't shut off and run that fast in nearly 4000 ft air.

I can't believe the original authors of the AHFS did not take into account the weather conditions at all.They treat Bristol and Houston as one and the same.Not a good idea.

Maybe they need to shut off the clocks at Indy next year,and after qualifying,they can post who the quickest cars are.After that,they can administer AHFS for ALL qualifiers.

SS Engine Guy · 09-11-2014, 07:52 PM

Gary Parker! You hit the nail on the head! The only catch is that if running stock class and you had to follow the rule book (and the big 3 had been "advised" to follow the rule book) all the special race ported factory heads would be illegal. All the "cross breeding" of rear ends, trans, etc. would not be accepted. In other words most of the cars causing this discussion wouldn't fit the class. Which is what caused all this discussion in the first place. I build these new "stock" engines. I knew from day one what they are capable of. And what a mess this was destined to become. I thank the big 3 for getting back into sportsman drag racing and I thank all my customers and friends for taking the opportunities to own these vehicles! It's just not Stock and in most cases it isn't SS. These also aren't the only under factored vehicles in Stock and SS. I understand the "protecting your combo" phrase that is thrown around a lot these days but if rules were enforced and ratings were somewhat close "protecting your combo" wouldn't even be in a racers vocabulary. Thank you Barry Parker for injecting some pure common sense into this discussion!

Bill Diehl · 09-13-2014, 06:54 AM

Who cares what they all have...some folks are smarter than others also.

Bottom line is, if your stuff can run 1 or 1.5 under and it shows up on the board, you should be treated the same as all others.

Jeff Teuton · 09-13-2014, 09:07 AM

I agree, leave them alone.

09-11-2014, 07:27 PM	#11
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,333 Likes: 5 Liked 262 Times in 100 Posts	Re: Stock suggestion #3 I think all of these "suggestions" were primarily about INDY.There was a Factory Stock Class that did not have to worry about getting horsepower. I think the reason that they did this was to prevent a bunch of cars shutting off early like a lot of older cars do.Keep REAL racing.However,"most" old cars can't shut off and run that fast in nearly 4000 ft air. I can't believe the original authors of the AHFS did not take into account the weather conditions at all.They treat Bristol and Houston as one and the same.Not a good idea. Maybe they need to shut off the clocks at Indy next year,and after qualifying,they can post who the quickest cars are.After that,they can administer AHFS for ALL qualifiers.

09-11-2014, 07:52 PM	#12
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Stock suggestion #3 Gary Parker! You hit the nail on the head! The only catch is that if running stock class and you had to follow the rule book (and the big 3 had been "advised" to follow the rule book) all the special race ported factory heads would be illegal. All the "cross breeding" of rear ends, trans, etc. would not be accepted. In other words most of the cars causing this discussion wouldn't fit the class. Which is what caused all this discussion in the first place. I build these new "stock" engines. I knew from day one what they are capable of. And what a mess this was destined to become. I thank the big 3 for getting back into sportsman drag racing and I thank all my customers and friends for taking the opportunities to own these vehicles! It's just not Stock and in most cases it isn't SS. These also aren't the only under factored vehicles in Stock and SS. I understand the "protecting your combo" phrase that is thrown around a lot these days but if rules were enforced and ratings were somewhat close "protecting your combo" wouldn't even be in a racers vocabulary. Thank you Barry Parker for injecting some pure common sense into this discussion!

09-13-2014, 06:54 AM	#13
Bill Diehl Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 311 Likes: 2 Liked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Stock suggestion #3 Who cares what they all have...some folks are smarter than others also. Bottom line is, if your stuff can run 1 or 1.5 under and it shows up on the board, you should be treated the same as all others.

09-13-2014, 09:07 AM	#14
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 326 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Stock suggestion #3 I agree, leave them alone. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK