Pro tree

[Michael Beard]

The problem is trying to get the nay sayers to put their purse down long enough to even try it

This is a ridiculous argument. Pro & Full trees are different disciplines. Pro tree requires either a fast-reacting car/driver/or both, but in any case it is simply an instinct reaction. Some people are better at it than others, but it's not *hard*. Full tree racing requires a lot more out of the driver. There's a reason why people use blinders and/or delay boxes where permissible. Full Tree racing also adds another variable to heads-up runs, sometimes giving the slower car a little more of a chance due to error or overconfidence by the faster car. Pro Tree would dumb it down and give the faster car far less chance to red light or have a cautious light. Yes, it'd be fun for a non-sanctioned event, but makes little sense to toss Pro Tree runs in with a Full Tree category.

And yes, I have Pro Tree raced. (and won, both a handicapped Pro Tree race with a street-legal car, and a 7.0 heads-up Index class with my Stocker)

And BTW, people do use delay boxes in many Pro Tree categories. Might be even tougher to find discover them in Pro Tree classes where they are prohibited.

$.02,

[Paul Precht]

Back in the 70s I raced a 4/10ths pro tree at National on Long Island every Tuesday eve and a full tree at Hampton every Sunday, I definitely liked the pro tree better. The lights would have to be shielded from the opposing lane though to prevent one from leaving off the others light.

[TOSTO RACING]

I was just seeing what everyone thought personally there's nothing like standing on the starting line while two stick cars stage for a pro tree!

[69Cobra]

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Originally Posted by tosto racing

there's nothing like standing on the starting line while two stick cars stage for a pro tree!

[69Cobra]

In my opinion this would have to bring more spectators back to the sport.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Paul Precht

Back in the 70s I raced a 4/10ths pro tree at National on Long Island every Tuesday eve and a full tree at Hampton every Sunday, I definitely liked the pro tree better. The lights would have to be shielded from the opposing lane though to prevent one from leaving off the others light.

I believe the post was about HEADS UP "CLASS" runs for class. Not a handicap start.

[Jeff Lee]

I've raced both. As Michael Beard stated, it "dumbs down" the racers. Anybody with no skill can hammer down some pretty good RT's on a pro-tree. And yes, you will have fewer redlights.
But the skill set required for a full-tree is much greater. It separates the posers from the real racers. It gives the experienced full-tree racer an advantage over others. And that is the point and that is why you hear resistance.
Sorry...just the facts!

[Paul Precht]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I believe the post was about HEADS UP "CLASS" runs for class. Not a handicap start.

Understood, I just threw that in because of the abuse of leaving off the other guys light with the 4/10ths at National. Many of the cars had 10" converters and didn't leave as hard as they do now so it was almost impossible without anticipating to redlight even when staging deep. If you were dialed in at 12.0 and your opponent at 12.05, you left off his light and that gave you an advantage that .he could do nothing about. Many of the racers didn't understand this or the staging deep tricks which made it much harder for them to win.

[K Stubbs]

Personally I wish they would go to a Pro Tree during class. Much more exciting for driver and fans.

[new az stocker]

69Cobra your wrong i have raced a pro tree