2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes

[Dgal]

I realize that the NHRA may not do anything about it, but they have just shown that they will gleefully address issues that don't seem to the the top of current list of problems. I don't remember being at the track once in the last couple of years and heard a racer say "Gee, if they would just bring back the 55's....." Not that I don't like that they are because I feel they are neat cars, but I won't put anything past Glendora.

I still haven't seen one argument for keeping the redlight rule and inequality at the starting line that I can get behind. It is simply unfair to only recognize the first, not the worst.

That is the equivalent of saying the rule of the first breakout looses versus the worst breakout. If you feel the first redlight should only loose, then why wouldn't you support only the first breakout? Of course, that is another change and it would be stupid to do so. But it is no different that the current rule at the starting line as it stands.

Don

[Dan Wilson]

The main reason I got the new Dodge is the first red looses.
Gee why else would I spend all this money?
Dan Wilson

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

When you're in the final for the money, and your first-to-leave redlight is less than your opponent's, I hope you guys still think this is hilarious when he collects what SHOULD have been your winnings....

Well if I left first and red-light, I didn't deserve to win, regardless of the guy in the other lane

[countrypuppy4865]

Chad, you have an excellent point. When I go bracket racing I am the slower car the majority of the time. So, I learned if
I go red I go home. So, bottom line just don't go red. Nobody says anything about when I faster car is spotting a slower car by 5 seconds.

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

Well if I left first and red-light, I didn't deserve to win, regardless of the guy in the other lane

You don't deserve to win, regardless if he red lights worse than you?

How could you know, if he never has the same chance to redlight as you did?

Tell me that... please.

No free rides....

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865

Chad, you have an excellent point. When I go bracket racing I am the slower car the majority of the time. So, I learned if
I go red I go home. So, bottom line just don't go red. Nobody says anything about when I faster car is spotting a slower car by 5 seconds.

What is there about being the first car to leave that makes you willing to give the guy in the other lane a free ride to the winner's circle just because you happened to redlight first?

BOTH cars need to have an equal chance to redlight, I think.... otherwise it's an unfair system that fails to put both cars at risk of a redlight, and if that's a good thing, please tell me what's good about such an inequity.

To say "Just don't redlight" is like saying, "Just don't lose." Unrealistic... IMHO.

Still haven't seen posted here a good, logical reason not to change this (like they changed to a worse breakout rule, years ago.)

Thanks for your comments!!!

[Jeff Lee]

As a typically faster car, I think it is UNFAIR that I have to sit there watching your car go down the track heading for mid track by the time my light says "go"! My God, some of these cars are so damn slow my clutch pedal leg is shakin', sweat is pouring out of my helmet, my thumb is quiverin' against the line-lock button and my hear rate is over the reline.
And for that 2-4 second wait, my throttle is over 5K, my water and oil temps are climbin', the rockers might have lost their adjustment (because roller rockers would ruin Stock!!!) and my slicks may have gained pressure as the sun beat down on them awhile longer.
Ad to that the barometric pressure probably changed a few tenths!!! The planet probably rotated a measurable amount while I wait for my go light.
And then once I got going, assuming I didn't red light with all that wait / worry / anticipation, I have to catch the slow car that has a 1/8 mile head start on me and work out a strategy to overtake him with a 25 MPH difference and use twice the braking power to avoid a break-out.
geez, the more I think about it, we should demand all heads up runs. That is THE ONLY WAY TO BE FAIR. Makes sense to me!

[Bill Grubbs]

I think both cars should leave at the same time. Just think...same start...run off a dial...first red loses...flat out to the finish line...best package wins...AND...no braking (heck if you touched the brakes you would probably lose anway)...no game playing...NO WHINERS!

[Super Sport]

If you are so adamant about changing rules, why not just DQ both cars if they both redlight. Neither one should deserved to win anyway.

Seriously though, there is no way the redlight rule is ever going to change. Give it a rest and move on so real rule changes can be discussed.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865

Chad, you have an excellent point. When I go bracket racing I am the slower car the majority of the time. So, I learned if
I go red I go home. So, bottom line just don't go red. Nobody says anything about when I faster car is spotting a slower car by 5 seconds.

exactly. If I go red, I wasn't on my game and deserve to go home, whether it be first round or final round. If he red lit worse than me............oh well I gave him one. Had I not been red I would have gotten the freebie.

BTW thanks for dropping that converter off to Pat yesterday. Gonna try it out tomorrow night