Crate Motor Class - Page 18

bsa633 · 01-12-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Crate MoPar's in NHRA. The Nascar Hemi with the short or long track intake, any carb that will fit under the hood and aluminum heads.
See there is a place for Crate Motor "Bracket Cars" in NHRA Stock Class!

And i thougth you would name a couple of FoMoCo products,,

Fred Holdorf · 01-12-2009, 05:11 PM

This thread got me to thinking. Why is the only small block Ford Crate motor with specs, not on the list of accepted motors? Why are the specs on the 4 that are listed not published for someone to see? I'm not an IHRA member, due to living on the left coast so this is just a question at this time. I don't believe the 4 listed engines have been available, as assembled motors, for quite some time.

Fred

P.S. If IHRA came west I would be intrested in racing in their program.

442OLDS · 01-12-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Holdorf

This thread got me to thinking. Why is the only small block Ford Crate motor with specs, not on the list of accepted motors? Why are the specs on the 4 that are listed not published for someone to see? I'm not an IHRA member, due to living on the left coast so this is just a question at this time. I don't believe the 4 listed engines have been available, as assembled motors, for quite some time.

Fred

P.S. If IHRA came west I would be intrested in racing in their program.

I hope somebody can answer your question,but sorry I can't help you.One question that I do have about crate motors is that it has been brought up earlier in this thread that the H/CM class is a 9.5 horsepower to weight class.D/SA is also a 9.5 horsepower to weight class.I was just wondering why the index is 12.00 in H/CM and 11.85 in D/SA?How are the factors of these crate motor engines determined and why the difference in the index?

LNorton · 01-12-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

why the difference in the index?

The difference in index was to allow for racers to build a crate combo on a budget and be able to run the index.

Ed Fernandez · 01-12-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LNorton

The difference in index was to allow for racers to build a crate combo on a budget and be able to run the index.

Drag racing affirmative action.

Ed F.

CrateCamaro · 01-13-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I hope somebody can answer your question,but sorry I can't help you.One question that I do have about crate motors is that it has been brought up earlier in this thread that the H/CM class is a 9.5 horsepower to weight class.D/SA is also a 9.5 horsepower to weight class.I was just wondering why the index is 12.00 in H/CM and 11.85 in D/SA?How are the factors of these crate motor engines determined and why the difference in the index?

Do you think that a 350/340HP crate motor would run with a 396/325HP? I don't think so.

Bobby Zlatkin · 01-13-2009, 11:28 AM

What I have been thinking about this situation (index differences) all along:

When nine or ten of the top 10 qualifiers are crate motor cars and they're accross the board; it's not the HP factors being soft as much as it's the indexes being soft..

Why should the 9.5 lb. stock index and the 9.5 lb. crate motor index not be the same?

And LNorton, your explanation of why they are different is totally out in left field.

LNorton · 01-13-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Zlatkin

And LNorton, your explanation of why they are different is totally out in left field.

Crate motor classes were started as an outlet for racers to be able to build a car and compete in stock on a low budget. So in order to make it easier for newcomers to get under the index and race on Sunday the indexes started off soft. You may think I am out in left field on this one...

When I was running pure stock I was told those indexes were soft and were gonna get hit 2 tenths.

Bobby Zlatkin · 01-13-2009, 11:53 AM

Lee,

Any thought of a crate motor class being a budget class is a misconception. How can it cost any less to build a first class crate motor car than a first class regular stocker?

That may have been the original thought but it has progressed far beyond that now.

LNorton · 01-13-2009, 11:56 AM

Well, I will tell you all this. Whining about it on a message board really doesn't do anything. If you want changes, you need to be writing letters.

01-12-2009, 05:11 PM	#172
Fred Holdorf Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Minden, Nv Posts: 44 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Crate Motor Class This thread got me to thinking. Why is the only small block Ford Crate motor with specs, not on the list of accepted motors? Why are the specs on the 4 that are listed not published for someone to see? I'm not an IHRA member, due to living on the left coast so this is just a question at this time. I don't believe the 4 listed engines have been available, as assembled motors, for quite some time. Fred P.S. If IHRA came west I would be intrested in racing in their program.

01-13-2009, 11:28 AM	#177
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Crate Motor Class What I have been thinking about this situation (index differences) all along: When nine or ten of the top 10 qualifiers are crate motor cars and they're accross the board; it's not the HP factors being soft as much as it's the indexes being soft.. Why should the 9.5 lb. stock index and the 9.5 lb. crate motor index not be the same? And LNorton, your explanation of why they are different is totally out in left field. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

01-13-2009, 11:53 AM	#179
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Crate Motor Class Lee, Any thought of a crate motor class being a budget class is a misconception. How can it cost any less to build a first class crate motor car than a first class regular stocker? That may have been the original thought but it has progressed far beyond that now. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

01-13-2009, 11:56 AM	#180
LNorton Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: RacerTees.com Posts: 505 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Crate Motor Class Well, I will tell you all this. Whining about it on a message board really doesn't do anything. If you want changes, you need to be writing letters. __________________ Lee Norton - N229 STK IHRA H/FIA - NHRA O/SA RacerTees.com