Lencos in SS

Crisco · 10-27-2009, 02:05 PM

Over heard a rumor of Lenco's (planetary style) transmissions being allowed in SS next year. Anyone else hear about this? Supposedly the Hemi cars are pulling for this for 2010.

X-TECH MAN · 10-27-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Crisco

Over heard a rumor of Lenco's (planetary style) transmissions being allowed in SS next year. Anyone else hear about this? Supposedly the Hemi cars are pulling for this for 2010.

I heard something about clutchless trans but running a Lenco is getting out of hand. S/S and stock is almost a joke already not to mention all of the modifications they are doing to the Hemi engine in SS/AH.

Mopar Steve · 10-27-2009, 03:21 PM

Excellent! Maybe Mega Blocks and Merlins are next!!!

Mike Voth · 10-27-2009, 03:35 PM

Why not? I know dad is tired of replacing gears, shafts, forks, sliders, and more gears all the time. Not from breakage, necessarily, just abuse.

While we're at it, titanium valves would be a good idea, also.

But there's a million things you could change. Where would you draw the line??

Myron Piatek · 10-27-2009, 03:42 PM

History keeps repeating itself. Mostly tube chassis and Lencos started to be used in Pro Stock in the early-mid-'70's. And those cars originally started as SS's.

To put things in perspective, the Pro Stock records in the late '70's were in the low to mid 8 second range!
(Before the 500" limit.)

bill dedman · 10-27-2009, 05:21 PM

And, the last car to hold the lbs./cu.in. Pro Stock MPH record (with MPH arguably being the most reliable HP indicator) was a 383" Hemi, run by John Hagen.

I think the Ford Cleveland was pulling more weight per cube than the Hemi at that time, though, so there's not really any way to compare engines; it's all apples and oranges...

james schaechter · 10-27-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Crisco

Over heard a rumor of Lenco's (planetary style) transmissions being allowed in SS next year. Anyone else hear about this? Supposedly the Hemi cars are pulling for this for 2010.

I heard that the possiblity of a clutchless is there, but not a planetary. Just the split slider deal like Jeff said. It has to be voted on by the committee. I think it would be a step in the right direction for the modified guys anyway. At least a modified guy with a stick might have a chance against the weight break for autos.

I don't think the Lenco would be anyone's choice in SS even if it was legal.

herbjr · 10-28-2009, 06:49 AM

One thing about a Lenco it would never break. Why are guys worried about Lenco's when stick guys arent using the clutch now. They are pulling a lever. I had a lenco 20 years ago and I used it 2 years and sold it for more than I paid for it. It is slower than a clutchless no doubt, but how much is stock anymore anyway. I have a pro trans 904 Chrysler that takes a Chevy Convertor. Its so far out who really cares anymore.

Herb Jr

njk53 · 10-28-2009, 07:54 AM

Super Stock and Stock eliminator are really getting out of hand. This kind of equipment is more like a modified production class. Where is this going to end? The trans case should be OEM.

If I had my way I would have SS and Stock be a foot brake class; no electronics, no wheelie bars, Schubeck lifters, etc. Bring some normalcy back to the two classes.
I would have a more thorough list of OEM options from the factory and not dealer installed items to allow the 55-56-57 Chevys back into stock eliminator.

Kris · 10-28-2009, 09:26 AM

Hopefully "clutchless" is allowed. There is no et/mph advantage by having one. The major advantage is cost. The cost to run a stick is through the roof and going clutchless alleviates alot of the expense. If there is no performance edge it should be allowed. Might make things more economical to hopefully allow more people to run a stick

10-27-2009, 02:05 PM	#1
Crisco Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hendersonville, TN 37075 Posts: 225 Likes: 4 Liked 44 Times in 20 Posts	Lencos in SS Over heard a rumor of Lenco's (planetary style) transmissions being allowed in SS next year. Anyone else hear about this? Supposedly the Hemi cars are pulling for this for 2010.

10-27-2009, 03:21 PM	#3
Mopar Steve Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 92 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Lencos in SS Excellent! Maybe Mega Blocks and Merlins are next!!!

10-27-2009, 03:35 PM	#4
Mike Voth Live Reporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Buhler, KS Posts: 527 Likes: 5 Liked 57 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS Why not? I know dad is tired of replacing gears, shafts, forks, sliders, and more gears all the time. Not from breakage, necessarily, just abuse. While we're at it, titanium valves would be a good idea, also. But there's a million things you could change. Where would you draw the line?? __________________ Mike Voth 5189 GTN - 5188 GTO Voth Racing

10-27-2009, 03:42 PM	#5
Myron Piatek VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,542 Likes: 34 Liked 138 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS History keeps repeating itself. Mostly tube chassis and Lencos started to be used in Pro Stock in the early-mid-'70's. And those cars originally started as SS's. To put things in perspective, the Pro Stock records in the late '70's were in the low to mid 8 second range! (Before the 500" limit.) __________________ LOCOMOTION Racing Last edited by Myron Piatek; 10-27-2009 at 03:49 PM.

10-27-2009, 05:21 PM	#6
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS And, the last car to hold the lbs./cu.in. Pro Stock MPH record (with MPH arguably being the most reliable HP indicator) was a 383" Hemi, run by John Hagen. I think the Ford Cleveland was pulling more weight per cube than the Hemi at that time, though, so there's not really any way to compare engines; it's all apples and oranges... __________________ Bill

10-28-2009, 06:49 AM	#8
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS One thing about a Lenco it would never break. Why are guys worried about Lenco's when stick guys arent using the clutch now. They are pulling a lever. I had a lenco 20 years ago and I used it 2 years and sold it for more than I paid for it. It is slower than a clutchless no doubt, but how much is stock anymore anyway. I have a pro trans 904 Chrysler that takes a Chevy Convertor. Its so far out who really cares anymore. Herb Jr

10-28-2009, 07:54 AM	#9
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS Super Stock and Stock eliminator are really getting out of hand. This kind of equipment is more like a modified production class. Where is this going to end? The trans case should be OEM. If I had my way I would have SS and Stock be a foot brake class; no electronics, no wheelie bars, Schubeck lifters, etc. Bring some normalcy back to the two classes. I would have a more thorough list of OEM options from the factory and not dealer installed items to allow the 55-56-57 Chevys back into stock eliminator. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

10-28-2009, 09:26 AM	#10
Kris Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Maine Posts: 49 Likes: 51 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Lencos in SS Hopefully "clutchless" is allowed. There is no et/mph advantage by having one. The major advantage is cost. The cost to run a stick is through the roof and going clutchless alleviates alot of the expense. If there is no performance edge it should be allowed. Might make things more economical to hopefully allow more people to run a stick