Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! - Page 10

Billy Nees · 07-04-2011, 03:26 PM

I think that Mark Yac was looking at that car some years ago. I would put it on the list of "why hasn't someone built this" combos. Mark probably passed on it because of where he lives. Seems like a good "sea level" car though.

Billy Nees · 07-04-2011, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Hamlin

OK, here's another mopar that will get into "U"
1979 Aspen SE station wagon with a 318/135/185 (natural break is 19.13,add weight to make U) The small 2bbl would be a limiting factor, but the coolness of a station wagon with woodgrain is undeniable!

And I'll bet that a good scrounge could really "dime" that one together.

Robert Swartz · 07-04-2011, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

I want to thank Billy and Dwight for a weekend of eye opening facts and Mark too with follow up info. Great thread, I am sure some folks are taking notes and we will actually see a few of these combos in the coming months. Great job guys.

This has been a very enlightening thread. I'd say one of the best in ages on this forum. Yes, I've already taken Billy's advise and copied down what he wrote on the starting thread, plus a good bit of the other information. I may just do the front end, rear end and put some sheet metal back onto my Firebird, build a "cheap" engine, per some of this information. Relatively speaking, this car could be at the track next spring?

Course, now, I've got the sub frame connectors, roll bar and all those IHRA crate motor parts laying around. Something for the future.

jimmyparker · 07-04-2011, 03:42 PM

Billy,
Not sure how economical the Aspen wagon would be. In this area any kind of old station wagon brings good money if you can find one, I don't remember the last time I saw an Aspen wagon from this era around here.
I'm thoroughly enjoying this thread, keep em coming.

Jimmy Parker

Michael Beard · 07-04-2011, 04:15 PM

There's a couple of bracket Volare/Aspen wagons floating around North Carolina. One is a decked-out Super/Pro car, but the other is a good Stocker candidate driven by a local track champ... the Legend and I have been working on him for a couple of years now, but just haven't quite got the hook set!

One of the cars that got me interested in Stock Eliminator in the first place was Charlie DeHaven's O/SA Aspen Wagon (US13 Dragway home track). I think he mostly bracket raced it, but it sounded mean! I remember a Mopar Performance-backed Aspen Wagon in a Mopar magazine when I was a kid, and even then they talked about switching it to the 2bbl combo.

Pvt Parts · 07-04-2011, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

Thanks!! This is fun for me.

You mentioned something there that makes me think. We ought to do that as a project and document a blow by blow (might even Facebook or Twitter it) just to see if it can be done. Reckon we could get a magazine or website or manufacturer to fund it????

Well, there was R.V's C/SM Camaro and Arlen's Maverick...... why not???

Philip Saran · 07-04-2011, 05:05 PM

Thank you guys for a interesting weekend of reading.

I know of one more, but it probably is too expensive to build
since it is a 4 bbl version.

1966 Valiant 2 dr Formula S 273/4 bbl/4 speed, I suppose
it really is similar to Willie B's daughter's 1965 car, but?

Fred Holdorf · 07-04-2011, 05:55 PM

goinbroke2,
I tried the '83 T-Bird V6 and ran out of money, (fixed income). Carb is 1.08 and if it had a manifold to go with it,maybe? Intake is a smog piece with three 3/4" tubes running thru the plenum for EGR use. They take up all the plenum. A switch to a '84 TBI (2BBL-not legal) manifold brought a .5 second improvment. 16.30 ET's at Bakersfield were my best and then Mark built the turbo Mustang! No cam blanks for this engine exsist. I'm too old to start over, so it became a "bracket car", with a junk yard 5.0L V8, instant 13.60's and goes rounds. Thanks for the thread, very enlighting, Fred

P.S. I have over 600 runs on the 6 cyl AOD trans (shift kit, small convertor) and 7.5" Equalok rear end (4.10 gears) without breakage. (1.90, 60ft's)

Michael Beard · 07-04-2011, 06:25 PM

Grr. Seriously? There's an information blackout in the Guide completely covering the production years of the Buick Reatta!

In regards to the 225 Slant Six, how much do you figure the 3-spd would help over the I-6's stuck with a 'glide?

goinbroke2 · 07-04-2011, 06:31 PM

DANG IT!
Thanks Fred, I thought I had a flash of insight.

And That your honour is why Billy is doing it and I'm running in circles.....LOL

Excellent thread!

07-04-2011, 03:26 PM	#91
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,279 Likes: 3,189 Liked 6,966 Times in 1,570 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! I think that Mark Yac was looking at that car some years ago. I would put it on the list of "why hasn't someone built this" combos. Mark probably passed on it because of where he lives. Seems like a good "sea level" car though. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS What is "NORMAL"???

07-04-2011, 03:42 PM	#94
jimmyparker Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: columbus, georgia Posts: 362 Likes: 42 Liked 232 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! Billy, Not sure how economical the Aspen wagon would be. In this area any kind of old station wagon brings good money if you can find one, I don't remember the last time I saw an Aspen wagon from this era around here. I'm thoroughly enjoying this thread, keep em coming. Jimmy Parker

07-04-2011, 04:15 PM	#95
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! There's a couple of bracket Volare/Aspen wagons floating around North Carolina. One is a decked-out Super/Pro car, but the other is a good Stocker candidate driven by a local track champ... the Legend and I have been working on him for a couple of years now, but just haven't quite got the hook set! One of the cars that got me interested in Stock Eliminator in the first place was Charlie DeHaven's O/SA Aspen Wagon (US13 Dragway home track). I think he mostly bracket raced it, but it sounded mean! I remember a Mopar Performance-backed Aspen Wagon in a Mopar magazine when I was a kid, and even then they talked about switching it to the 2bbl combo. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

07-04-2011, 05:05 PM	#97
Philip Saran Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Parker, CO. Posts: 721 Likes: 158 Liked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! Thank you guys for a interesting weekend of reading. I know of one more, but it probably is too expensive to build since it is a 4 bbl version. 1966 Valiant 2 dr Formula S 273/4 bbl/4 speed, I suppose it really is similar to Willie B's daughter's 1965 car, but? __________________ Phil Saran Parker, Colorado

07-04-2011, 05:55 PM	#98
Fred Holdorf Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Minden, Nv Posts: 44 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! goinbroke2, I tried the '83 T-Bird V6 and ran out of money, (fixed income). Carb is 1.08 and if it had a manifold to go with it,maybe? Intake is a smog piece with three 3/4" tubes running thru the plenum for EGR use. They take up all the plenum. A switch to a '84 TBI (2BBL-not legal) manifold brought a .5 second improvment. 16.30 ET's at Bakersfield were my best and then Mark built the turbo Mustang! No cam blanks for this engine exsist. I'm too old to start over, so it became a "bracket car", with a junk yard 5.0L V8, instant 13.60's and goes rounds. Thanks for the thread, very enlighting, Fred P.S. I have over 600 runs on the 6 cyl AOD trans (shift kit, small convertor) and 7.5" Equalok rear end (4.10 gears) without breakage. (1.90, 60ft's)

07-04-2011, 06:25 PM	#99
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! Grr. Seriously? There's an information blackout in the Guide completely covering the production years of the Buick Reatta! In regards to the 225 Slant Six, how much do you figure the 3-spd would help over the I-6's stuck with a 'glide? __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

07-04-2011, 06:31 PM	#100
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 736 Likes: 687 Liked 187 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH! DANG IT! Thanks Fred, I thought I had a flash of insight. And That your honour is why Billy is doing it and I'm running in circles.....LOL Excellent thread!