Crate Motor Class

[Michael Beard]

Cheating is cheating. Sounds like your circle track's problem isn't the crate motors...

I do agree with your "NHRA Stock Eliminator already has more than enough classes." post, Alan.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Cheating is cheating. Sounds like your circle track's problem isn't the crate motors...

I do agree with your "NHRA Stock Eliminator already has more than enough classes." post, Alan.

I agree that cheating is cheating. That was a response to how great crate motors have been for circle track racing. At the circle tracks, crate motors were brought in to reduce the amount of tech inspection required and "level the playing field". Track operators decided that if the crate motor had the bolts in it, it couldn't be cheated up. It has not worked out that way. I know racers who have been DQ'd over an aftermarket distributor module (no rule against it in the book) when racing against engines everyone knew were cheated up. But you could see the module without removing a "tamper proof" bolt. That is a common thread throughout circle track racing. "Sealed" crate motors have increased cheating and wrecked the playing field, rather than what they were supposed to do.

The problem with more and more classes is that you cannot be everything to everyone, it cannot be done. What you end up with is a circus, and racers and race fans come to race a race or see a race, not a circus. Eventually, the racers and race fans leave, and the circus fans get bored with that particular circus and go look for another one. Thing is, all the racers and race fans have all gone on to something else, so then the racing dies off.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Brandon Peterson

so fear of change doesn't fit in any of those how????

No, it does not. No matter how much you might want it to.

[Alan Roehrich]

NHRA Stock Eliminator already has more than enough classes.

We already have AA/SA thru W/SA and AA/S thru W/S, plus A thru E front wheel drive automatic and stick classes. That's 56 classes in one eliminator.

Why would we need or want to add another 16-20 classes?

A crate motor is just a different engine you have to round up parts for and pay a professional to build. The only difference is you can go to the dealer and buy the parts instead of beating the brush pile.

We already have tons of accepted aftermarket "replacement parts" that have to be constantly refactored. Blocks, heads, intakes, carburetors, you name it. Some of them aren't even sold by the original manufacturer, much less made by them.

We already have enough bogus combinations and under factored combinations to choke a horse. There's no need to add to the pile. We already have enough classes that anyone who wants to can build a car and never see another like it all year, and probably never see a heads up race or a race to win class. We don't need to add to that pile either.

We already have a truck load of stuff NHRA evidently cannot properly handle a technical inspection on, and enough questionable standards to last any dozen tech men who want to do their job a life time.

[Everett Vassar]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

NHRA Stock Eliminator already has more than enough classes.

We already have AA/SA thru W/SA and AA/S thru W/S, plus A thru E front wheel drive automatic and stick classes. That's 56 classes in one eliminator.

Why would we need or want to add another 16-20 classes?

A crate motor is just a different engine you have to round up parts for and pay a professional to build. The only difference is you can go to the dealer and buy the parts instead of beating the brush pile.

We already have tons of accepted aftermarket "replacement parts" that have to be constantly refactored. Blocks, heads, intakes, carburetors, you name it. Some of them aren't even sold by the original manufacturer, much less made by them.

We already have enough bogus combinations and under factored combinations to choke a horse. There's no need to add to the pile. We already have enough classes that anyone who wants to can build a car and never see another like it all year, and probably never see a heads up race or a race to win class. We don't need to add to that pile either.

We already have a truck load of stuff NHRA evidently cannot properly handle a technical inspection on, and enough questionable standards to last any dozen tech men who want to do their job a life time.

NAILED IT!

Actually I do have a 96 camaro that would make an excellent CM stkr. ...there just aren't enough IHRA tracks around here.