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View Poll Results: What Do You Hold
Don't hold/try to dial honest 35 43.75%
.01 2 2.50%
.02 22 27.50%
.03 10 12.50%
.04 5 6.25%
.05 4 5.00%
.06 or more 9 11.25%
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Old 10-30-2024, 12:00 AM   #11
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This slip was in the 3rd round of the low roller gambler. Pretty sure this was a slow stock eliminator car. I screwed up by not holding a lot more than I did. It was a tough judgment call & could have been made easier by holding a bunch.

Was I still cheating?

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Old 10-30-2024, 09:35 AM   #12
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You gotta put a number on the window you can run.

From SR1 may he rest in peace:
You have to hold your light to make it look like you are a bag o donuts
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Old 10-30-2024, 10:40 AM   #13
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I can tell you a .049 bulb and 1 over with a 4 wont get you many wins in SS.

Not a hero run but would/could have won a great number of rounds looking at Ennis.
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Old 10-30-2024, 11:19 AM   #14
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I see that you seem to hold a bunch
You were using the theory that you were the faster car so you make the decision
I like it ? You?re either just riding people or you doing a 20 mile an hour dump
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I can tell you a .049 bulb and 1 over with a 4 wont get you many wins in SS.
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Not a hero run but would/could have won a great number of rounds looking at Ennis.
Thanks for the info, Curtis.

That slip shows we sometimes have crappy lights. Even the best has them or worse. Holding gave me some extra options that I would not have had if I was dialing honest.
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Old 10-30-2024, 03:03 PM   #16
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1700
I see that you seem to hold a bunch
You were using the theory that you were the faster car so you make the decision
I like it ? You?re either just riding people or you doing a 20 mile an hour dump
James,

When I voted in the poll, I chose all options except "Don't hold/try to dial honest".

I have a set range of hold numbers that work best for me in most situations.

I use my mph to my advantage, it has its pros & cons. For me, the pros outweigh the cons! My car will run 150mph+ but I'm not legal to run it that fast yet.

In my class (Pro), I chase 99+% of my opponents. I definitely don't ride my opponents or do a dump. The 2 slips shared showed me getting rid of around 15mph. Most of the time it's using the throttle around the 1000' mark & saving a little for the finish line. That is where I make my final decision to take or give up the stripe.

There's is no drama with me killing my hold numbers or getting rid of mph. The 1% of the time I do use the brakes it's only a slight amount & again no drama.

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Old 10-30-2024, 03:07 PM   #17
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You gotta put a number on the window you can run.

From SR1 may he rest in peace:
You have to hold your light to make it look like you are a bag o donuts
Agreed. I essentially said the same thing in my first response on this thread, just in a different way.
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Old 10-30-2024, 09:44 PM   #18
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Phx divisional I lost a radiator. By the time I found and replaced tadiator it was 1st round. With no time runs I was using what I had to determine ET. Then added .09. I was fortunate enough I was the faster car for 3 rounds and won. 4th was a faster car then me. Took the .09 slower ET off and dialed honest. Had two people come by and said weather was worse and I'm dialing faster. I was able to win 4th round. 5th I went red.was it frowned on to fender race, I'm sure it was, but I was at a disenvantage. What ever works, works.
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Old 11-01-2024, 08:24 PM   #19
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This slip was in the 3rd round of the low roller gambler. Pretty sure this was a slow stock eliminator car. I screwed up by not holding a lot more than I did. It was a tough judgment call & could have been made easier by holding a bunch.
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Lol...I think I know the guy in the other
lane...Car # 7832 EF/ S and it was a really tough week. It was so hot out I
only found the tree 1 single pass (Sadly
1st round same gambler race the night before against my own Vegas teammate
from Wednesday thru Saturday PM and
went home a day early Saturday late afternoon, as I was tired of attempting to chase shade (or risk frying my brain in
the sun another day), from sun up to sundown for days on end.

I was dialed honest based on the prior 8 AM start pass, but the air was cooler (stellar for Las Vegas, the corrected D.A.was 1,400' lower, and the track prep perfect and fast, plus a 7-8 mph tail wind. I knew my light was junk by the time I was 60' out, held the same shifts through the 1-2 shift and watched your light through the left side mirror and knew you had caught a 20 something or better, and had (with zero caffeine that morning gone comatose to what I figured was a 60 something (and I was worse but not far off actual). So, I had 1 out, down shifted to 2 from Drive and held the 2-3 shift about 800 more rpm attempting to push you out last 2 feet on the brakes. I played my hand the best I could, and while close (you played your full house a lot better than my junk Ace high hand I dealt myself). Well played on the big end, but I was nearly math defeated back 1318' ft back at the tree and knew it from the 660' mark to the end. I will say...If you held any more you would have been out the back door.

That you did not do so saved the race.

I spent the rest of that day toiling away in the heat under my dash angry with myself for being so dang late (and not grabbing a caffeine booster in the AM), but I did get my new ECU and electronics board plus my harness grommet installed that day.

A well played game I came close to pushing you out, but you were fully in control of your own destiny there. Good job...but be very careful about how much you hold against someone only running 75 mph as time goes slowly at my ET and mph.

Now, all that said, the next morning at the team race 1st round, it was like a repeat of the prior day and a guy from Firebird in PHX running a car from the Bradford School puton a hold a ton clinic against me, (no idea how many seconds he dialed up the last second at the ready line and he blasted a .012 then did the hard charge, a 1,000' drop, gliding up like a CA CHP pacing me 1' in front andwe both dipped at the line as he backed up to within an inch then was right dead on the dial with a zero! 2 days both at 8:00 AM same result...but at least there was a buyback window to go to...I finally saw red next rnd and a really bad 3rd rnd 1st and second rnd losses weekend was over!

The weather is better now, Vegas Summer is over finally! It was a dissatisfied disaster of hell on earth. Looking to finally see a 4th round soon! Please Dear Lord.

You didn't cheat but did your job at the tree, something I failed to do another repeated too often 3rd round.



I screwed up the position of the post, on my phone it would not correct, but you can get the gist. Don't hold more than you can handle...if my light is there, I will show ya the backdoor!
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This is the best reason I have found to hold from time to time.
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