U/SA 302 ffffford build - Page 14

Larry Hill · 07-26-2024, 07:37 AM

Hang in there

goinbroke2 · 07-26-2024, 04:21 PM

Thanks Larry, I'm trying, but now I've got family coming from out of province and when they leave I'll have 3 days to do everything before the Open. I'm thinking it might not happen. The following weekend is another open 7hr's each way so I might try for that. Or...just go to my local track for a test and tune to sort the bugs all out before hitting any S/SS races.

Company coming wants to off road so I have 3 mud trucks to get ready before Monday now...and all my camera stuff and drone for my youtube channel as well....and of course we're on a lake so everyone will want to go in the boats.....busier now than before I retired, lol.

Dave Gantz · 07-26-2024, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by goinbroke2

Or...just go to my local track for a test and tune to sort the bugs all out before hitting any S/SS races.

That's your ticket, Jim. Get some good, solid runs in before you go S/SS racing. No rush. Remember the old Pennsylvania Dutch saying, "The hurrieder I go, the behinder I get."

goinbroke2 · 07-27-2024, 09:34 AM

Story of my life! Lol!!

goinbroke2 · 08-20-2024, 02:22 PM

Can't get a break, lol...
Got the converter/transmission and valve body installed.
Got the 5.14's installed
Got header collectors fabbed up and installed

Fired it up and running like crap then quit. No gas in the tank? Whatever, filled it up and squirter is spraying weird. Pull carb and open it up and it is full of brown sludge from the gas tank...crap. Stripped carb and cleaned it, fired it back up, runs good again. (ordering a fuel cell over the winter)

Go through the gears, I have park/reverse/neutral/LOCKED UP/2nd/3rd.
Unhooked the shifter, maybe it's not "perfect"? Nope, same, it's the valve body or what I did or didn't do to it. It feels like a tranny brake, I gave it a bit of throttle and it was torquing against the converter. I ground out the 4 slots indicated and didn't grind the 2 for the tranny brake but maybe I screwed up?

So, once it cools, drain the tranny and pull the valve body to see what I did wrong. I also send a message to Broader performance to see if they can help diagnose it.

Unrelated but also a factor in getting this done, I was diagnosed with an "aggressive" cataract in my left eye and even had to go to emerg one day. Yesterday I found out my cousin (we are identical, everyone calls us twin cousins) has stage 4 cancer.

I always said I don't mind getting old, I just refuse to grow up. Well now, getting old is getting on my nerves too...

goinbroke2 · 09-05-2024, 10:36 AM

Well...first gear is exactly like I have a tranny brake on. Pulled the valve body and stuck in the one out of the white mustang and it works fine (forward pattern with shift kit)
Pulled it back out, went over the valve bodies piece by piece (three of them, one stock, one with a shift kit and one with reverse valve body) all the springs and valve are correct. I've watched video's that broader said to watch and everything is exactly like the video.

Not going in the garage today.

Might modify the stock valve body according to the instructions and see if the second one turns out better than the first.....another day.

Fuel system is totally gummed up now. Bolts for the gas tank are rusted solid (why I never took it out originally) but I'll have to break/cut them off and drill/tap/fix whatever. I have another stock tank with a sump welded in, might use that or a cell, probably go with cell. My nice stocker carb is gummed with crap from the tank so everything has to come apart and be cleaned/replaced.

Could of bracket raced the blue mustang all summer if I wasn't addicted to stockers, lol!

Billy Nees · 09-05-2024, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by goinbroke2

I have another stock tank with a sump welded in, might use that or a cell, probably go with cell.

Just so you know, unless things have changed since the last time I looked, you can use a cell in a "Stocker" but you can't modify the original tank!

Cglrcng · 09-05-2024, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Just so you know, unless things have changed since the last time I looked, you can use a cell in a "Stocker" but you can't modify the original tank!

At least they give us all the option today (it wasn't always available). But, if you choose to install a cell, it is also required to remove the stock fuel tank.

goinbroke2 · 09-09-2024, 07:35 PM

Thanks guys, simplest things trip you up. Attention to detail and read the rules again, lol.
Fuel cell it is.

B/S 428 · 09-09-2024, 08:22 PM

Here's a picture of my 79

07-26-2024, 07:37 AM	#131
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07-26-2024, 04:21 PM	#132
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 773 Likes: 922 Liked 219 Times in 87 Posts	Re: U/SA 302 ffffford build Thanks Larry, I'm trying, but now I've got family coming from out of province and when they leave I'll have 3 days to do everything before the Open. I'm thinking it might not happen. The following weekend is another open 7hr's each way so I might try for that. Or...just go to my local track for a test and tune to sort the bugs all out before hitting any S/SS races. Company coming wants to off road so I have 3 mud trucks to get ready before Monday now...and all my camera stuff and drone for my youtube channel as well....and of course we're on a lake so everyone will want to go in the boats.....busier now than before I retired, lol. __________________ Jim Miller 103 U/SA

07-27-2024, 09:34 AM	#134
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08-20-2024, 02:22 PM	#135
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 773 Likes: 922 Liked 219 Times in 87 Posts	Re: U/SA 302 ffffford build Can't get a break, lol... Got the converter/transmission and valve body installed. Got the 5.14's installed Got header collectors fabbed up and installed Fired it up and running like crap then quit. No gas in the tank? Whatever, filled it up and squirter is spraying weird. Pull carb and open it up and it is full of brown sludge from the gas tank...crap. Stripped carb and cleaned it, fired it back up, runs good again. (ordering a fuel cell over the winter) Go through the gears, I have park/reverse/neutral/LOCKED UP/2nd/3rd. Unhooked the shifter, maybe it's not "perfect"? Nope, same, it's the valve body or what I did or didn't do to it. It feels like a tranny brake, I gave it a bit of throttle and it was torquing against the converter. I ground out the 4 slots indicated and didn't grind the 2 for the tranny brake but maybe I screwed up? So, once it cools, drain the tranny and pull the valve body to see what I did wrong. I also send a message to Broader performance to see if they can help diagnose it. Unrelated but also a factor in getting this done, I was diagnosed with an "aggressive" cataract in my left eye and even had to go to emerg one day. Yesterday I found out my cousin (we are identical, everyone calls us twin cousins) has stage 4 cancer. I always said I don't mind getting old, I just refuse to grow up. Well now, getting old is getting on my nerves too... __________________ Jim Miller 103 U/SA

09-05-2024, 10:36 AM	#136
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 773 Likes: 922 Liked 219 Times in 87 Posts	Re: U/SA 302 ffffford build Well...first gear is exactly like I have a tranny brake on. Pulled the valve body and stuck in the one out of the white mustang and it works fine (forward pattern with shift kit) Pulled it back out, went over the valve bodies piece by piece (three of them, one stock, one with a shift kit and one with reverse valve body) all the springs and valve are correct. I've watched video's that broader said to watch and everything is exactly like the video. Not going in the garage today. Might modify the stock valve body according to the instructions and see if the second one turns out better than the first.....another day. Fuel system is totally gummed up now. Bolts for the gas tank are rusted solid (why I never took it out originally) but I'll have to break/cut them off and drill/tap/fix whatever. I have another stock tank with a sump welded in, might use that or a cell, probably go with cell. My nice stocker carb is gummed with crap from the tank so everything has to come apart and be cleaned/replaced. Could of bracket raced the blue mustang all summer if I wasn't addicted to stockers, lol! __________________ Jim Miller 103 U/SA

09-09-2024, 07:35 PM	#139
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 773 Likes: 922 Liked 219 Times in 87 Posts	Re: U/SA 302 ffffford build Thanks guys, simplest things trip you up. Attention to detail and read the rules again, lol. Fuel cell it is. __________________ Jim Miller 103 U/SA

09-09-2024, 08:22 PM	#140
B/S 428 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 86 Likes: 18 Liked 150 Times in 33 Posts	Re: U/SA 302 ffffford build Here's a picture of my 79 Attached Thumbnails