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Old 07-22-2024, 09:13 AM   #11
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Default Re: Metric T-200 issue

Richie, add 1/2 qt. of fluid!
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Old 07-22-2024, 01:06 PM   #12
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Default Re: Metric T-200 issue

The lag is somewhat inherent in some valve bodies but many times its due to improper fluid level .
Here's the link to the Turbo Action tech tip on proper dip stick measurement.



https://www.turboaction.com/TH200Full_Mark1-04.pdf
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I’ve been working on the car all day
Ran it for a few minutes and checked the level and it was low
It has a custom locking dipstick and someone marked it on one side for correct level
Without pulling the pan I can’t confirm that dipstick is correct
I’ll recheck it hot at the track next week.

Car needs some TLC and we’re getting reacquainted.
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Old 07-22-2024, 08:08 PM   #14
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Do you have a trans cooler? or a loop
No cooler and No loop.....plugged at the trans.....Don't know if that could be an issue....
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Old 07-22-2024, 09:13 PM   #15
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Rich,
I don't know about a 200 but in a PG if you just plug the cooler lines off with out modifying the pump it causes a restriction in fluid flow out of the converter. Converter will function different with the restricted flow. Just Put a loop on it and see if it helps the issue.
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Old 07-23-2024, 06:06 AM   #16
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No cooler and No loop.....plugged at the trans.....Don't know if that could be an issue....
Good morning Rich and to all,
Rich I think you might want to contact the transmission's builder. None of us know who's front pump is in there, and what's been done internally. My McClay 200 is plugged. I believe Leon plugs his cooler inlet and outlet as well. If I remember correctly the Remac front pumps are made to have the cooler lines plugged. But there are other builders out there and some have a different way of getting the same things done. This is where you might want to get in touch with the original builder. If you haven't reached out to Mark Yac. now might be a good time. I'm not personally well versed on all the internal workings of those units to let you know exactly "what " to be looking for.
Have a good day.

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P.S. Rich have you put a pressure gauge on the trans and run it in gear, even on jack stands ?

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Adding fluid did not help
2-3 flare is really excessive and is clearly visible on both the recall tach and datalog from the ECU
I will do more investigation this week to verify the fluid level and the shifter, cable and detent adjustments but I think this trans needs to be gone thru by someone that does them and knows what their doing
Like I said earlier, the men doing them are few and far between....
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Rich, I run a metric 200 built by Thomas Arnett. It has the deep cast aluminum pan and takes 8 quarts to fill with the correct dip stick and tube. Cooler lines are plugged also.


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Old 07-28-2024, 07:34 PM   #19
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Default Re: Metric T-200 issue

I had a similar issue several years ago with my Sepanic Metric 200. It was suggested that I shift it into 3rd gear and pull the shifter linkage pin out of the lever on the transmission. When I did I couldn't get the pin back into the lever. I had adjusted the shifter linkage with the transmission in park,,not in 3rd gear. Linkage adjustment is more critical for 1st 2nd and 3rd gear,,especially in 3rd. Never had slippage again going into 3rd.
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Old 07-29-2024, 08:07 AM   #20
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Tim, that check is going to happen this week.
I did have the shifter all apart 3 times to change the gate plate and I’m using an air shifter just for bracket racing on an 1/8 mile
That’s just temporary as I know it’s not legal for Stock
I adjusted the cable up top but didn’t do the check at the trans.
I’m going to drop the pan as well as do that check.

At some point I’ll show up and run Stock again.
Maybe the Dutch, thanks
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