Interesting Read on NASCAR

4543 · 12-20-2022, 09:55 AM

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/07/nasc...f-layoffs.html

Bet the NHRA Pro teams are watching this.

jmcarter · 12-20-2022, 10:36 AM

Personally don’t think any professional race teams (especially NASCAR) have a viable financial plan beyond 2030. Plus NHRA has an additional problem with major venues as the big tracks keep disappearing. Hope I’m wrong but don’t foresee there being any west coast events in a few years. Recession won’t spare many business models that revolve around Motorsports or even entertainment in general. Sorry to be debbie downer

1347 · 12-20-2022, 11:58 AM

A very good friend of mine who works for a cup team,, said we may see( for those who watch) mufflers on Cup cars at California and Chicago Street course in 2023. I wonder if thats the next thing to come in CA for motorsports?

Mike Gray · 12-20-2022, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 1347

A very good friend of mine who works for a cup team,, said we may see( for those who watch) mufflers on Cup cars at California and Chicago Street course in 2023. I wonder if thats the next thing to come in CA for motorsports?

We already tried mufflers back in the late 90’s I think. I had them on my super-gas car.
It was the opposition by the s/ss racers that I think made it go away. It still might be an unenforced rule out here on the west coast and at other tracks. I didn’t mind it too much the Borla mufflers didn’t have much affect on the et’s and were still loud.

Barry Polley · 12-20-2022, 01:01 PM

Highly doubt you’ll see profit sharing in our sport. That would mean cuts above 🧐.

Doug, Ca hates Motorsports so nothing would surprise me here. If you want to test on Wednesday at Sonoma you need mufflers. The grapes are sleeping…
I’ve served my muffler apprenticeship! No thank you!
How soon will we all be running Ethanol is the question I have……

Steve Stickel · 12-20-2022, 01:21 PM

Probably all Unleaded for the US motorsports also in the near future.

Australian Motorsports since 2019 .

"Leaded Fuels are now being phased out by the 30th June 2019 and all major manufacturers are producing alternative unleaded fuels to replace them ."

https://racefuels.net.au/main-page-n...-abeaa7a1-07c3

Dave Siltman · 12-21-2022, 08:49 PM

I only race Nostalgia Stock/Super Stock now, and while it’s certainly not free, it is pretty reasonable. We don’t allow much in the way of electronics, and really want to keep it simple and project the vibe of the ‘60s and ‘70s. The drivers love it, the crowd loves it, and the track operators love it. You know, it seems like racing was more fun when there were no toterhomes and stackers, no $80,000 Stock/SuperStock engines, no programmable electronic gizmos, etc. Maybe it’s me, but checkbook racers kinda screwed it up for the normal guy, and it got out of hand. I’m not begrudging the guys that do it, I just think some of the nostalgia series are becoming more popular because the guys that still have to work on their car and drive it themselves after working all week to support their family don’t have the funding or desire to compete in the NHRA. Our entry fees are lower and our purses are equal to, if not larger than the NHRA shows. I don’t think the prestige of winning a “Wally” is what it used to be.

12-20-2022, 09:55 AM	#1
4543 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 605 Likes: 52 Liked 536 Times in 121 Posts	Interesting Read on NASCAR https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/07/nasc...f-layoffs.html Bet the NHRA Pro teams are watching this.

12-20-2022, 10:36 AM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,152 Likes: 2,035 Liked 2,795 Times in 874 Posts	Re: Interesting Read on NASCAR Personally don’t think any professional race teams (especially NASCAR) have a viable financial plan beyond 2030. Plus NHRA has an additional problem with major venues as the big tracks keep disappearing. Hope I’m wrong but don’t foresee there being any west coast events in a few years. Recession won’t spare many business models that revolve around Motorsports or even entertainment in general. Sorry to be debbie downer __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock

12-20-2022, 11:58 AM	#3
1347 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Monroe Twp NJ Posts: 454 Likes: 935 Liked 928 Times in 241 Posts	Re: Interesting Read on NASCAR A very good friend of mine who works for a cup team,, said we may see( for those who watch) mufflers on Cup cars at California and Chicago Street course in 2023. I wonder if thats the next thing to come in CA for motorsports? __________________ Duane Hoven 1342 SS/GT

12-20-2022, 01:01 PM	#5
Barry Polley Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Vacaville Ca Posts: 762 Likes: 703 Liked 578 Times in 243 Posts	Re: Interesting Read on NASCAR Highly doubt you’ll see profit sharing in our sport. That would mean cuts above 🧐. Doug, Ca hates Motorsports so nothing would surprise me here. If you want to test on Wednesday at Sonoma you need mufflers. The grapes are sleeping… I’ve served my muffler apprenticeship! No thank you! How soon will we all be running Ethanol is the question I have…… __________________ Barry Polley 758 A/SA California- No place to race!

12-20-2022, 01:21 PM	#6
Steve Stickel Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Coast, Massachusetts Posts: 145 Likes: 143 Liked 50 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Interesting Read on NASCAR Probably all Unleaded for the US motorsports also in the near future. Australian Motorsports since 2019 . "Leaded Fuels are now being phased out by the 30th June 2019 and all major manufacturers are producing alternative unleaded fuels to replace them ." https://racefuels.net.au/main-page-n...-abeaa7a1-07c3 __________________ Steve Stickel 1161 Stk 1167 SS Last edited by Steve Stickel; 12-20-2022 at 09:37 PM. Reason: spell

12-21-2022, 08:49 PM	#7
Dave Siltman Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 69 Likes: 215 Liked 66 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Interesting Read on NASCAR I only race Nostalgia Stock/Super Stock now, and while it’s certainly not free, it is pretty reasonable. We don’t allow much in the way of electronics, and really want to keep it simple and project the vibe of the ‘60s and ‘70s. The drivers love it, the crowd loves it, and the track operators love it. You know, it seems like racing was more fun when there were no toterhomes and stackers, no $80,000 Stock/SuperStock engines, no programmable electronic gizmos, etc. Maybe it’s me, but checkbook racers kinda screwed it up for the normal guy, and it got out of hand. I’m not begrudging the guys that do it, I just think some of the nostalgia series are becoming more popular because the guys that still have to work on their car and drive it themselves after working all week to support their family don’t have the funding or desire to compete in the NHRA. Our entry fees are lower and our purses are equal to, if not larger than the NHRA shows. I don’t think the prestige of winning a “Wally” is what it used to be. Last edited by Dave Siltman; 12-21-2022 at 08:52 PM.