Dodge going Electric

[jmcarter]

Washington and Oregon are experimenting with road use taxes as well, biggest hurdle I see is building the infrastructure to support all the charging stations. California already has rolling brownouts during peak season so not sure if more nuclear power is the answer, all kind of alternatives in discussion but for sure plenty of tax dollars spent as they take the inevitable 2 steps forward followed by 1-3 steps back. The Ford F-150 with the Pro Power options (all the way up to a 7.2kW output!) is an interesting twist at keeping gas powered vehicles viable. I’m currently considering picking up an electric car just in case world events and/or the current political climate continues unabated.

[Rory McNeil]

Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger

My son has one. Had it a couple years now. He was over to the house last summer in it and brother John wouldn't even take a ride in it ! LOL ..In two years he has not spent a dime on fuel. Drives an hour each way to work. Plugs it into his garage charger when he gets home from work. Tells me he did not notice any change in his electric bill. So far, its never had to return to the dealer. Acceleration is amazing. I'm guessing, it's gotta be a 13 second car. Its so quiet inside its strange.

Interesting that he never noticed a jump in his electric bill. A few months ago on the local news, a person who bought a pure electric car, was complaining how much their electric bill had gone up since they started charging their electric car every night. You would have to think charging a battery for 8 or 10 hours every night just HAS to use some juice. Shortly before I retired after 23 years at a Toyota dealership, 2 of the mechanics leased new Toyota Prius Prime Plug In Hybrids. both live about 20-25 miles from the dealership, and under normal conditions, each can make the commute from home without having the gas engine turn on, they then plug the car in at work, and when their 10 hour shift is over, they can, again, usually make it home just before the battery runs down far enough to cause the gas engine to start, and help charge the battery. The one guy had driven his Prius for 3 months, and still had 1/2 tank from when he picked the car up. Of course if you get stuck in gridlock, or need to run the heater or A/C a lot, the battery runs down that much quicker, or if you don`t baby it on acceleration. At home, you can elect to use a conventional 115 volt plug in, and wait 8 hours or more to charge the battery up, or spend $2000. or more, to have a high speed charger installed at home. I suppose if you do a lot of mostly local driving, and live in or near the city, an electric car or plug in hybrid may be worth considering, but I couldn`t imagine having one as your only vehicle if you live semi rural, or need to be able to go on a long drive now and then, without being stuck waiting for the battery to charge along the way. As for being able to tow a heavy trailer long distances, not sure how convenient trying to maneuver a big motorhome or crew cab dually with a 28 foot trailer behind it, between a pair of Teslas suckling at the public charging stations , would be. Not to mention all the big rig tractor trailers criss crossing North America. Really can`t see fossil fuels going away anytime soon. And realistically, do our cities and utility companies have anywhere near the needed surplus power to charge millions of electric cars? Should be interesting!

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Not to mention all the big rig tractor trailers criss crossing North America. Really can`t see fossil fuels going away anytime soon. And realistically, do our cities and utility companies have anywhere near the needed surplus power to charge millions of electric cars? Should be interesting!

Don't worry..fossil fuels aren't going away anytime soon. Does anybody think Pelosi wants to give up flying home , cross country on weekends , in her private jet?

[John Winslow Jr]

Crazy Nancy won’t give it up but she expects us to take a knee and give it up

[SSDiv6]

It appears that the CEO of Toyota and Elon Musk agree that it is not sustainable.

Also, it is a known fact that it requires 250 tons of mineral ore Spodumene when mined, or 750 tons of mineral rich brine to produce one ton of lithium. The processing of large amounts of raw materials results in considerable environmental impacts.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...Rp2SjIkAjNpgHs

[Billy Nees]

While you're looking at the toxicity of lithium, look at how toxic solar panels are.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Jeff Niceswanger

My son has one. Had it a couple years now. He was over to the house last summer in it and brother John wouldn't even take a ride in it ! LOL ..In two years he has not spent a dime on fuel. Drives an hour each way to work. Plugs it into his garage charger when he gets home from work. Tells me he did not notice any change in his electric bill. So far, its never had to return to the dealer. Acceleration is amazing. I'm guessing, it's gotta be a 13 second car. Its so quiet inside its strange.

You may never have to replace the brakes. In driving it I got use to letting the motor slow and stop the car.

[Carguy49]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

My daughter just purchased an extended mileage Tesla (332 miles), as far as durability, we will see.

Thanks Eddie for the info. My kids live in Boise, Idaho so the trip is just about 500 miles. I would have to stop and re-charge somewhere along the way - not practical. I assume the re-charge would take a few hours. I'll stick to a gas vehicle for now, thank you.

[Paul Sarvas]

Originally Posted by Carguy49

I assume the re-charge would take a few hours. I'll stick to a gas vehicle for now, thank you.

From Tesla site.

Public Charging
When away from home, Tesla Superchargers and Destination Charging networks have you covered. You can locate Tesla charging stations through your touchscreen, via navigation and on the Tesla Find Us map.

Supercharger stations are placed on well-traveled routes and dense urban centers, allowing your car to charge to 80% in about 30 minutes. Located near helpful amenities like coffee shops and travel plazas, Superchargers are designed to charge quickly and get you back on the road.

Tesla’s Destination Charging network allows you to charge at thousands of convenient charging locations like local shopping centers, parking garages, hotels, restaurants and other hospitality locations.

Find a Destination Charger or Supercharger near you.

If you plan on using chargers outside of the Tesla Network, keep the included J-1772 adapter in your car to expand your charging options.

pS

[Tom Meyer]

So are these charging stations free power or do they charge you?? Tom