Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

[gmeyer]

Originally Posted by oldskool

Last pic I have is from '19 US Nats. He's running SS/MA.

Wonder what you'd have do to his car to run GT, without makin any engine changes ?

I know very little about GT rules.

Can you just tech in as a GT car, even tho you've made no changes ?

Yes Most SS cars can entry both SS or GT with no changes
greg

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by gmeyer

Yes Most SS cars can entry both SS or GT with no changes
greg

Thanks ! I had no idea. Just assumed that SOME change would have to be made, even if it was a very small one.

[oldskool]

OK, we've mentioned most of the Pontiac powered GT cars that were recently active.

Now I wanna see if you guys can come up with some names of some of the first guys to do it. I'm talkin about purpose built GT cars, not just those that choose to run GT, with their reg SS car.

We'll assume that Don Kennedy was among the 1st. Who else ? Pics & other info would be helpful.

Just wondering if some were thinkin about building one, but waiting to see how other guys did, running a GT car.

Who's 3rd gen GT car was featured in one of the Angeles & McCarthy Pontiac books ? When I saw how they used 2nd gen motor mounts, I decided to build a 3rd gen for a bracket car, back in '07. I had a book, but gave it to somebody else. Now that I think about it, That may have been a street car, since most use plates to mount the engine.

That brings up a SS question. Have motor plates always been legal in SS ? If not, what year were plates made legal ?

I'll go ahead & ask another dummy question here. I see that most SS Pontiacs now run a dist aprox where the water pump is, on stock Pontiac V8 engines. Noticed in the Art Peterson video, that he still runs the dist in the normal location. So, what exactly are these front mounted dist called ? Who makes 'em for Pontiac V8's ? And what are the advantages of that type ?

[coolcanman]

I'm a dummy let me answer that question it's called a cam driven distributor made by jesel or MSD originally developed for comp cars with sheet metal intakes according to Bob Kaiser so the back 4 ports could match the front ports by moving intake back on the gt cars that didn't come with pont eng the dist sits further back in car in my 4th gen under windshield

[BRINK]

Originally Posted by oldskool

Last pic I have is from '19 US Nats. He's running SS/MA.

Wonder what you'd have do to his car to run GT, without makin any engine changes ?

I know very little about GT rules.

Can you just tech in as a GT car, even tho you've made no changes ?

No changes are necessary. Just the difference in indexes. SS/MA is 11.85, whereas GT/QA is 11.75.

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by BRINK

No changes are necessary. Just the difference in indexes. SS/MA is 11.85, whereas GT/QA is 11.75.

Well, that definitely settles that. I may be the last to know.

I figure that won't be the last thing I learn thru these threads. But, learning is a good thing !

[coolcanman]

On the distributor question when u race a pontiac you have to massage chev parts to fit sometimes

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by coolcanman

On the distributor question when u race a pontiac you have to massage chev parts to fit sometimes

Yeah, I guessed that when I didn't find a Pontiac dist listed.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by oldskool

So, ya'll name other bodies you know have been converted to Pontiac power, for GT.

I know that 350, 400, 428, & 455 engines have been used. Any others ?

David Sidlo , GP with a 389 , AFB..Division 4 ..Practically your neighbor ;-)

[oldskool]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

David Sidlo , GP with a 389 , AFB..Division 4 ..Practically your neighbor ;-)

Never heard the name. But I'll look him up & see what I can find out. Would have never thought I'd hear of a 389 AFB GT car.

But hey, that's what a lotta cars ran back in the '60's & '70's. So, you pull Jack Mullin's engine out of his wagon & put it in a GT car, it should run the index or better, I figure.

Looked up a few '63 389's, with AFB. 1 has a 250hp factor. Would be interestig to know just which 389 he's claiming.

OK, the 1st time I pull up his name is in 2018 at the Houston div race. He's #27 @ -.782. Listed as a '97 Firebird. So does that car also have a 389 or any Pontiac engine ?

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=336513

Or was the 389 powered car run several years back ?

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=324172

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=322961