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Old 01-07-2019, 10:24 PM   #1
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in case you haven`t seen this....better pack a lunch.
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Just asking, when was it decided that helmets were a good idea!
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:39 PM   #2
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Bernie I raced started racing in 1965 running stock and did not need helmet till 1974.
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Old 01-16-2019, 01:54 PM   #3
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Great point, but I don`t understand why?
More work for the tower crew?
Problem is, with the entry fees being $170+50, I don`t think it matters much if spectators show or not.
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To NHRA it probably doesn't matter, Esp at points meets. Anything the Racers say about it NHRA seems to consider it unnecessary and maybe an inconvenience. What most racers don't realize is NHRA is already paid and have their money.
For years and years I've heard racers say " NHRA should GIVE a points race to So and So Track". It doesn't work that way at all. There is no GIVE!
The Tracks buy the Points meet from NHRA. The tracks try to make their money back by the money coming through the gate. At one time points meets were so expensive it took about 400 cars entering for a track to break even. I just don't understand why Track owners are not insisting NHRA change rules and procedures that will Grow interest in the sport and fill the stands with spectators. I guess it is because some track owners are short on promotion skills and the desire to promote. When I was running my tracks I found I could promote the races and make more money by putting spectators in the stands than just continually raising entry prices for the racers. It was track owners that got the Alky cars separated from divisional so smaller tracks (tracks that can't handle 400 cars) could make money with a points meet..
In this case I think the track owners are the key to any operational or procedural changes like Index qualifying.
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:24 PM   #4
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In this case I think the track owners are the key to any operational or procedural changes like Index qualifying.
Adger, Been thinking along those lines.
However, I do believe the DD has most, if not all, of the discretion in actual scheduling during a particular event. If he thinks index qualifying , would take more time out of the schedule, for whatever reason, then I don't believe you're going to see it.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this.
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Old 01-16-2019, 06:35 PM   #5
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I sent this to Dave Mohn and Ryck Campbell on 1-12. Have not heard back yet.

Happy New Year,
Hope all is well with you and your family. There are a couple of interesting discussions in Class Racer threads. The first, in the interest of spectator appeal, would it be possible to have Stock and Super Stock qualify off their index, or dial-in, to create a "chase"? The slow vs. fast car offers little suspense when they leave together. http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=6553
The second, concerns obsolete combinations. They are the early, mostly forgotten S/S cars, which we don`t see much at the local, Divisional level. Could they be given HP help and return as Stockers in LODRS? http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=65507
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:03 AM   #6
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"At this time all a spectator sees in Qualifying is "Timed Runs" nothing that resembles a race."
Yep!!! This has been brought up so many times that NHRA and the tracks have to be against it.
I was the track announcer at Pomona for the Street Legal drags for 7 years. I leaned on the manager for years to do this and finally, one Saturday we did it, Spectators loved it. Racers learned what Bracket Racing was about. It was fun as heck. Computer operator whined and and cried and so that, was the end of that.

Make racing fun? You must be kidding
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:39 AM   #7
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Should have fired the comp op.
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:29 AM   #8
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I don't understand what the computer person was complaining about - don't they have to enter an E.T. or an index for EVERY car?
Just think (from any spectator viewpoint) about seeing cars RACING each other instead of "why is that slow car trying to race that fast car" comment every other pair. Might keep people in the stands, maybe even interested.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:57 AM   #9
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Just like the old Corvette modifieds in the other post, I love the starting line more so than the finish line. The sounds of the engine screaming and hammer dropping still to this day sends chills up my spine. Don't care who wins just keep bringing them to the line. Average joe spectator loves a chase (faster car going after a slow car) a natural animal response.
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I don't understand what the computer person was complaining about - don't they have to enter an E.T. or an index for EVERY car?
Just think (from any spectator viewpoint) about seeing cars RACING each other instead of "why is that slow car trying to race that fast car" comment every other pair. Might keep people in the stands, maybe even interested.
I think that it might let the average fan help to understand it better. With a little bit of luck it might even lead to a little more interest in the different cars and combos which might lead to a trip into the pits to look at the different cars and combos which might lead to some discussions with the owners of the different cars and combos. Am I running on?
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