Crate Motor Class

[Ed Wright]

Pure Stock did not "morph into Stock", Stock was here first. NHRA tried Pure Stock for a short while several years ago, then dropped it.

As Michael stated, IHRA is dying, and NHRA is not going to add crate motors.
Nor add Pure Stock again.
Might want to build an NHRA car, or go bracket racing.

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

You sound like someone who built a racecar and wants to rewrite the rules and the NHRA, which you don't race, to suit your own agenda....

If you think that the NHRA needs saving, build a legal NHRA car and enter some events.....

There are also people who buy a house next to an airport because it is cheaper...
After they buy they put all of their efforts into closing the airport that was there first...

Just sayin'

Totally agree Bob. I am sure the index would be totally bogus like now...... and even harder for Tech to police. It seems there is an agenda to push stock backwards to make it easier to race for some in the class without performance. Is it cheap? No but I knew that going in. For me its more about performance than dial. As for this crate stuff.... Morph into bracket racing. Leave stock alone..

[Michael Beard]

Originally Posted by Jim Bailey

Come on Michael, I love ya , don't act like a liberal and make partial quotes. The point is the cost of crate motors will double, triple, maybe quadruple if approved for NHRA class racing. I don't care about the past costs. We know what will happen. And that's a fact. Plus add to that your chances of a heads up, and if you're a slug, there are no wins. Even if you're as good a driver as you !

People have already spent double, triple, or quadruple what I did to run Super Stock. I still won races, and a World Championship. While I just missed them a few times on the ladder, I never had a heads-up run over several years in Super Stock. If I had a heads-up, I would lose. If I spent triple and they spent quadruple, I would still lose -- what's the point? No sense in spending money I don't have if it wouldn't benefit me. I worked on my car within my budget to try to go faster for my own satisfaction.

People outspent me in Crate Motor, too. I won some heads-up races, I lost some heads-up races. I set numerous records, won and lost Class, and won two World Championships and numerous Division Championships. How much someone else spends is completely irrelevant, so long as you can run under the index. I'm sorry if anyone is offended that they have more money than I will ever have. The Turismo must REALLY p*ss people off.

I love you, too, but you know me far better than to ever throw a BS line like "liberal"-anything my way.


This discussion is academic anyway, as IHRA is dying and NHRA isn't going to add Crate Motors.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

NHRA isn't going to add Crate Motors.

That's for sure.
They don't want all the cars they have now.
Fall Vegas filled up @ 5 GP's, 6 weeks in advance. So, either they want you to go to more and more points meets, or just go away all together.
They only want 4 cars on Sunday for filler, so eventually, they'll probably just invite the top 4 F/X cars in points or something like that.
What they're actually doing is driving class cars back to the association races.
Most of them allow IHRA class cars. That's where C/M and Pure cars ought to do their racing.
NHRA doesn't want us..and they don't want you.

[XSTOCKER]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

That's for sure.
They don't want all the cars they have now.
Fall Vegas filled up @ 5 GP's, 6 weeks in advance. So, either they want you to go to more and more points meets, or just go away all together.
They only want 4 cars on Sunday for filler, so eventually, they'll probably just invite the top 4 F/X cars in points or something like that.
What they're actually doing is driving class cars back to the association races.
Most of them allow IHRA class cars. That's where C/M and Pure cars ought to do their racing.
NHRA doesn't want us..and they don't want you.

And there's your thread killer!

[Frank Bialas]

Originally Posted by xstocker

and there's your thread killer!

The End!!! Finally!!! Rip!!!

[Frank Bialas]

Originally Posted by XSTOCKER

And there's your thread killer!

The End!!! Finally!!! Rip!!!

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

That's for sure.
They don't want all the cars they have now.
Fall Vegas filled up @ 5 GP's, 6 weeks in advance. So, either they want you to go to more and more points meets, or just go away all together.
They only want 4 cars on Sunday for filler, so eventually, they'll probably just invite the top 4 F/X cars in points or something like that.
What they're actually doing is driving class cars back to the association races.
Most of them allow IHRA class cars. That's where C/M and Pure cars ought to do their racing.
NHRA doesn't want us..and they don't want you.

Can I get a hell yeah!!!!!!...AMEN.....

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Can I get a hell yeah!!!!!!...AMEN.....

Both at same time?