v/s "battles" years ago..... - Page 2

Lyn Smith · 04-01-2014, 08:42 AM

I was at the 72 Spring Nats when Mr. kronnenbitter was runner up toBobby Warren.The Big old Chevy was a huge fan favorite.Nobdy left the stands then when Stockers came up,and the big head start he got really got the fans attention.It didnt hurt that he was a local guy either.

Dwight Southerland · 04-01-2014, 10:54 AM

Lyn, I was there too! If I remember correctly, Kronnenbitter had feeler gauge strips at each corner of the carb spacing it up from the manifold. I heard him speaking to somebody else who was helping him work on the car that they may have to add "another .005" and two more jet sizes" for the final. I assumed he was talking about adding more space under the carb.

Charlie A · 04-01-2014, 12:44 PM

Dwight,

Do you remember Dwight Cox's T/S '60 chevy 4 dr?

Looking at the one above made me remember it.

Ran better after it was painted, still broke a 3spd every week.

Lyn Smith · 04-01-2014, 01:03 PM

Did they even use a base gasket?

JRyan · 04-01-2014, 01:21 PM

Remember how you'd "clip" the power valve spring so she'd idle with the big cam. Well with the old two-bbls., you'd leave the power valve spring alone so she'd kinda idle with all the air leaks.

Two gaskets Lyn. Feeler gauges in the middle.

Things haven't improved all that much on teching vac leaks. I know of several smaller carbed cars that have very loose carbs.

Jerry

mtkawboy · 04-01-2014, 08:32 PM

That would be considered a very minor infraction these days

Dwight Southerland · 04-02-2014, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A

Dwight,
Do you remember Dwight Cox's T/S '60 chevy 4 dr?
Looking at the one above made me remember it.
Ran better after it was painted, still broke a 3spd every week.

Yes. Cox was too cheap to buy the Lenco synchronizer drum and any of Alex Jarrel's parts that helped the old 3speeds live. He bought my 3spd parts but it was at the end of the season and they built the '66 for the next year.

Billy Nees · 04-02-2014, 09:56 AM

Over the years, I've tried "leaker" tricks on some of my stuff but it always made the car so nasty to drive and so difficult to make it repeat that I just gave up. I never found enough in it to make it worth my while.
In this day and age, my time would probably be better spent petitioning the NHRA to just let me use the "bus" carburetor and the 11-1 "high altitude commercial" pistons.

Dwight Southerland · 04-02-2014, 04:37 PM

But, Billy, the AMC guys did that and you didn't like it! Just a little prejudice there?

Billy Nees · 04-02-2014, 06:02 PM

at least they came on 230 engines from Chevrolet. They just happened to be truck engines.

04-01-2014, 08:42 AM	#11
Lyn Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pontiac,il. Posts: 1,126 Likes: 227 Liked 860 Times in 160 Posts	Re: v/s "battles" years ago..... I was at the 72 Spring Nats when Mr. kronnenbitter was runner up toBobby Warren.The Big old Chevy was a huge fan favorite.Nobdy left the stands then when Stockers came up,and the big head start he got really got the fans attention.It didnt hurt that he was a local guy either.

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Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,983 Likes: 54 Liked 726 Times in 177 Posts	Re: v/s "battles" years ago..... Lyn, I was there too! If I remember correctly, Kronnenbitter had feeler gauge strips at each corner of the carb spacing it up from the manifold. I heard him speaking to somebody else who was helping him work on the car that they may have to add "another .005" and two more jet sizes" for the final. I assumed he was talking about adding more space under the carb.

04-01-2014, 12:44 PM	#13
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: v/s "battles" years ago..... Dwight, Do you remember Dwight Cox's T/S '60 chevy 4 dr? Looking at the one above made me remember it. Ran better after it was painted, still broke a 3spd every week. Last edited by Charlie A; 04-01-2014 at 05:57 PM.

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Lyn Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pontiac,il. Posts: 1,126 Likes: 227 Liked 860 Times in 160 Posts	Re: v/s "battles" years ago..... Did they even use a base gasket?

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JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 643 Likes: 29 Liked 105 Times in 29 Posts	Re: v/s "battles" years ago..... Remember how you'd "clip" the power valve spring so she'd idle with the big cam. Well with the old two-bbls., you'd leave the power valve spring alone so she'd kinda idle with all the air leaks. Two gaskets Lyn. Feeler gauges in the middle. Things haven't improved all that much on teching vac leaks. I know of several smaller carbed cars that have very loose carbs. Jerry

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mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 279 Likes: 123 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: v/s "battles" years ago..... That would be considered a very minor infraction these days

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Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,279 Likes: 3,189 Liked 6,965 Times in 1,570 Posts	Re: v/s "battles" years ago..... Over the years, I've tried "leaker" tricks on some of my stuff but it always made the car so nasty to drive and so difficult to make it repeat that I just gave up. I never found enough in it to make it worth my while. In this day and age, my time would probably be better spent petitioning the NHRA to just let me use the "bus" carburetor and the 11-1 "high altitude commercial" pistons. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS What is "NORMAL"??? Last edited by Billy Nees; 04-02-2014 at 10:00 AM. Reason: addition

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Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,983 Likes: 54 Liked 726 Times in 177 Posts	Re: v/s "battles" years ago..... But, Billy, the AMC guys did that and you didn't like it! Just a little prejudice there?

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Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,279 Likes: 3,189 Liked 6,965 Times in 1,570 Posts	Re: v/s "battles" years ago..... at least they came on 230 engines from Chevrolet. They just happened to be truck engines. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS What is "NORMAL"???