Observations and pit talk from Zmax

Ron Brindisi Jr. · 04-18-2011, 12:24 PM

Some were mentioning for those trying to pick-up grade points in NC, SC, VA, etc., it was nice that Zmax got a divisional (late August) as well as keeping their fingers crossed for Rockingham (I believe in the last year of contract) and Darlington, trying to change guardrail to lure NHRA for a division race...

For the fan who loves fuel cars, unless there was double the car count the round went too quick with running 4 at a time...

New tracks that are built without the return road in front of the grandstands (with several turn offs) take away from the fan experience of getting another view of a car they like or to cheer for the round winner as well as a selling point to a potential marketing partner...

Add up the # of racers times the insurance surcharge...

Any other observations anyone??

Tom Joseph · 04-18-2011, 01:00 PM

I personally hate the 4 wide because I stand at the 1000 and really can't look at 4 cars as they wizz by. It's just a gimick for the fans and I wonder if they like it. The good news is there's only one track they do it at. I agree about the return road.
Darlington is one of my favorite places and we test the Pro Mod there as it is awesome in the 1/8 but the last 1/8 needs some help. The owner told me he was saving his money to do the walls which cost 250 K according to his estimate.
Rockingham? That track needs soooo much attention that I won't go there not to mention the pits and return road suck. If it rains you better know where to park or your in lake Earwood.
With attendance the way it is,notice the stands at ZMax, I can't see these track owners at these two rural tracks spending the money it will take to make them salable.
I heard a lot of gripeing about the 305.00 per car it cost us to enter but we still went and it's still cheaper than a big buck bracket race when you double enter and buy back and all that and it's 1/4 mile racing not 1/8.
The ZMax track is now the best surface I've ever been down so NHRA now has to figure out a way to get more cars and fans starting with allowing Super Street at 60 cars and it would fill up and stop the class eliminations which waste too much time. Just my opinion. I had fun until Ray Connelly had a killer package and sent me home even tho I was 9.900 and had a decent light..he did great on that run.

THE LEGEND · 04-18-2011, 03:51 PM

Tom,
Don't bash Rockingham and Darlington. They have that old school charm. couple coats of paint and a little asphalt and they are good as new. You are just spoiled.

I disagree about the Big Money races to a certain point.
I went to Piedmont this weekend
I spent $520 on entry fees and $240 Buying Back. I won $200 in round money.
Yes I double entered.
If I was at ZMAX I would've spent $610 for 2 cars (same as double entering).

Not much difference except I would'nt get to see JFR or DSR
Chip Johnson

Tom Joseph · 04-18-2011, 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=THE LEGEND;253499]Tom,
Don't bash Rockingham and Darlington. They have that old school charm. couple coats of paint and a little asphalt and they are good as new. You are just spoiled.

I disagree about the Big Money races to a certain point.
I went to Piedmont this weekend
I spent $520 on entry fees and $240 Buying Back. I won $200 in round money.
Yes I double entered.
If I was at ZMAX I would've spent $610 for 2 cars (same as double entering)

.
Chip you didn't miss anything with that 4 wide deal. Didn't bash darlington but the Rock....??? You have to admit it needs more than a "Little" of anything. Ronnie and Bill are trying hard at Darlington in spite of the economy and if they spruce it up and go NHRA with a points race it will be great. The quarter mile thing is a big plus to me because as I get older ,and damn I am, 1/8 mile is too quick in a fast car. John Force must not have got enough attn because he was actually walking around the sportsman pits Saturday and I never saw anyone ask for his autograph..go figure.

Ron Brindisi Jr. · 04-18-2011, 06:07 PM

Tom... Was trying to make it to your pit to meet you again, but did not make it... I believe we parked next to u at the Greensboro Show some years back and we talked for a brief minute... I drooled over your roadster which u had for sale, after I had found my dragster...

I am with you... u go on overload with 4 at once...

Did u hear they were thinking about "temporary" type walls u move in for darlington?

I have experienced lake earwood 2 inches from the bottom of my friends trailer side door opening

It would be cool if Rockingham recieved some tlc and u do not park under the trees... Wonder if he wants a division only? With zmax so close, even if rockingham was "remodled" would they even get a national??

THE LEGEND · 04-18-2011, 08:44 PM

Tom,
I'm with ya on the 1/4 mile thing. Like it a lot better, but that won't keep me from going 1/th if thats all we got.

Ron,
Smart money would be Rock divisional only 2012, along with VMP.

Tom Joseph · 04-18-2011, 09:35 PM

Ron get over there at Atlanta or wherever you are next. The 33 Rdstr has a nice life as a Nitrous Express test car used by one of their employees from Long Beach Calif and only runs it 1/8 mile on Thurs night at Irwindale so he said. Chip is VMP going back to NHRA? If the Rock signs and gets a Div which would be kool they need a lot of track work if they run 1/4 or lots of crashes like. 1/8 it's not bad but NHRA won't do 1/8. I love the pine trees great shade but the pot holes and the lakes have to go.

THE LEGEND · 04-18-2011, 09:45 PM

Tom,
We keep hearing the same story of those 2 switching, with one getting a national.
They were patching some potholes at Rock a few weeks back.
Those top end crashes they had a couple of years ago were happening at all tracks that year.
I have to defend the Rock good or bad it's home.
Chip

BKSG1198 · 04-19-2011, 08:19 AM

VMP was supposed to come back to NHRA this year but, something happened with the contract with IHRA and VMP had to stay with IHRA for at least 1 more year.

Hemiparts · 04-19-2011, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND

Tom,
We keep hearing the same story of those 2 switching, with one getting a national.
They were patching some potholes at Rock a few weeks back.
Those top end crashes they had a couple of years ago were happening at all tracks that year.
I have to defend the Rock good or bad it's home.
Chip

I have to agree Chip, I love running the Rock just because of all the history that is there, but when we were down there Saturday for the Mopars @ the Rock the whole facility is in dire need of repair. The track surface is marginal at best, but the old wood bleachers are nearly falling down and the pit area and restroom could all use a major make over. In a time where small tracks such as Benson and Piedmont are making huge changes and upgrades Steve is going to have to bring his game to a new level if he ever wants to make the switch back to NHRA. IMO

Chris

04-18-2011, 12:24 PM	#1
Ron Brindisi Jr. Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 23 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Observations and pit talk from Zmax Some were mentioning for those trying to pick-up grade points in NC, SC, VA, etc., it was nice that Zmax got a divisional (late August) as well as keeping their fingers crossed for Rockingham (I believe in the last year of contract) and Darlington, trying to change guardrail to lure NHRA for a division race... For the fan who loves fuel cars, unless there was double the car count the round went too quick with running 4 at a time... New tracks that are built without the return road in front of the grandstands (with several turn offs) take away from the fan experience of getting another view of a car they like or to cheer for the round winner as well as a selling point to a potential marketing partner... Add up the # of racers times the insurance surcharge... Any other observations anyone??

04-18-2011, 01:00 PM	#2
Tom Joseph Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Observations and pit talk from Zmax I personally hate the 4 wide because I stand at the 1000 and really can't look at 4 cars as they wizz by. It's just a gimick for the fans and I wonder if they like it. The good news is there's only one track they do it at. I agree about the return road. Darlington is one of my favorite places and we test the Pro Mod there as it is awesome in the 1/8 but the last 1/8 needs some help. The owner told me he was saving his money to do the walls which cost 250 K according to his estimate. Rockingham? That track needs soooo much attention that I won't go there not to mention the pits and return road suck. If it rains you better know where to park or your in lake Earwood. With attendance the way it is,notice the stands at ZMax, I can't see these track owners at these two rural tracks spending the money it will take to make them salable. I heard a lot of gripeing about the 305.00 per car it cost us to enter but we still went and it's still cheaper than a big buck bracket race when you double enter and buy back and all that and it's 1/4 mile racing not 1/8. The ZMax track is now the best surface I've ever been down so NHRA now has to figure out a way to get more cars and fans starting with allowing Super Street at 60 cars and it would fill up and stop the class eliminations which waste too much time. Just my opinion. I had fun until Ray Connelly had a killer package and sent me home even tho I was 9.900 and had a decent light..he did great on that run.

04-18-2011, 03:51 PM	#3
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Observations and pit talk from Zmax Tom, Don't bash Rockingham and Darlington. They have that old school charm. couple coats of paint and a little asphalt and they are good as new. You are just spoiled. I disagree about the Big Money races to a certain point. I went to Piedmont this weekend I spent $520 on entry fees and $240 Buying Back. I won $200 in round money. Yes I double entered. If I was at ZMAX I would've spent $610 for 2 cars (same as double entering). Not much difference except I would'nt get to see JFR or DSR Chip Johnson

04-18-2011, 04:36 PM	#4
Tom Joseph Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Observations and pit talk from Zmax [QUOTE=THE LEGEND;253499]Tom, Don't bash Rockingham and Darlington. They have that old school charm. couple coats of paint and a little asphalt and they are good as new. You are just spoiled. I disagree about the Big Money races to a certain point. I went to Piedmont this weekend I spent $520 on entry fees and $240 Buying Back. I won $200 in round money. Yes I double entered. If I was at ZMAX I would've spent $610 for 2 cars (same as double entering) . Chip you didn't miss anything with that 4 wide deal. Didn't bash darlington but the Rock....??? You have to admit it needs more than a "Little" of anything. Ronnie and Bill are trying hard at Darlington in spite of the economy and if they spruce it up and go NHRA with a points race it will be great. The quarter mile thing is a big plus to me because as I get older ,and damn I am, 1/8 mile is too quick in a fast car. John Force must not have got enough attn because he was actually walking around the sportsman pits Saturday and I never saw anyone ask for his autograph..go figure.

04-18-2011, 06:07 PM	#5
Ron Brindisi Jr. Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 23 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Observations and pit talk from Zmax Tom... Was trying to make it to your pit to meet you again, but did not make it... I believe we parked next to u at the Greensboro Show some years back and we talked for a brief minute... I drooled over your roadster which u had for sale, after I had found my dragster... I am with you... u go on overload with 4 at once... Did u hear they were thinking about "temporary" type walls u move in for darlington? I have experienced lake earwood 2 inches from the bottom of my friends trailer side door opening It would be cool if Rockingham recieved some tlc and u do not park under the trees... Wonder if he wants a division only? With zmax so close, even if rockingham was "remodled" would they even get a national?? Last edited by Ron Brindisi Jr.; 04-18-2011 at 06:12 PM.

04-18-2011, 08:44 PM	#6
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Observations and pit talk from Zmax Tom, I'm with ya on the 1/4 mile thing. Like it a lot better, but that won't keep me from going 1/th if thats all we got. Ron, Smart money would be Rock divisional only 2012, along with VMP.

04-18-2011, 09:35 PM	#7
Tom Joseph Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Observations and pit talk from Zmax Ron get over there at Atlanta or wherever you are next. The 33 Rdstr has a nice life as a Nitrous Express test car used by one of their employees from Long Beach Calif and only runs it 1/8 mile on Thurs night at Irwindale so he said. Chip is VMP going back to NHRA? If the Rock signs and gets a Div which would be kool they need a lot of track work if they run 1/4 or lots of crashes like. 1/8 it's not bad but NHRA won't do 1/8. I love the pine trees great shade but the pot holes and the lakes have to go.

04-18-2011, 09:45 PM	#8
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Observations and pit talk from Zmax Tom, We keep hearing the same story of those 2 switching, with one getting a national. They were patching some potholes at Rock a few weeks back. Those top end crashes they had a couple of years ago were happening at all tracks that year. I have to defend the Rock good or bad it's home. Chip

04-19-2011, 08:19 AM	#9
BKSG1198 VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back in Vineland, NJ Posts: 2,554 Likes: 92 Liked 1,190 Times in 357 Posts	Re: Observations and pit talk from Zmax VMP was supposed to come back to NHRA this year but, something happened with the contract with IHRA and VMP had to stay with IHRA for at least 1 more year.