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12-08-2010, 09:28 PM | #51 |
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Re: Super class survey
here's a idea, those who havn't run a div. or a nat in the last 3 yrs STFU
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12-08-2010, 10:10 PM | #52 |
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Re: Super class survey
Simple, just like a breakout. You go faster than the set speed limit for the class, you lose. If both competitors go faster, the one that went faster loses. I would give this priority over E.T. breakouts (i.e. if one competitor goes 9.89 at 134 mph, and the other goes 9.91 at 136 mph, the one that went 136 mph loses - with electronics legal, there's no reason to push the mph that close to the edge).
Does this make it more confusing for the spectator? Probably, but if we're not going to outlaw electronics, we don't have any spectators anyway, so who cares if the 1 spectator in the stands understands what is going on...
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12-08-2010, 10:20 PM | #53 |
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Re: Super class survey
This is coming from a guy that's within a 2 hour drive of 5 of the 6 LODRS races in Division 1, and 2 National Events. Try driving 4 hours to your CLOSEST race and see what you think about spending more money...
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12-09-2010, 12:22 AM | #54 |
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Re: Super class survey
So if I have this right, you want to make it so that it's first to the finish line wins,... except if you go too fast (MPH) then you lose,... except if your opponent goes faster then you win,... except if you run too quick (ET) then you lose,... except if your opponent runs quicker, then you win. You're right, it's so simple.
And are you going to change all the software in all the computers at every track in the country to now understand this? How about at those tracks still running software from the early mesozoic era? You know, that track owner that has their first dime and can't be talked out of it? This is just silly.
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12-09-2010, 12:48 AM | #55 |
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Re: Super class survey
I think part of the problem is SG has changed from a door slammer class into a class full of roadsters. Maybe a 9.90 door slammer and a 8.90 roadster class. I would be willing to bet some of the SST guys would move into SG if they are not competing with 160+ roadsters all the time.
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12-09-2010, 09:12 AM | #56 |
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Yea. Let's have a door car 9.90 class. Then all these guy's you say will move up can run David Tatum. Good Luck.
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12-09-2010, 11:37 AM | #57 |
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I don't know about you but when I go to the track I go to race. I don't worry about who is in the other lane.
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There are some great ideas being passed around on here and some insane ideas. Just so you know, our S/G car could probably run 8.90 and our S/C car could run the 7.90. But, my S/ST car can only run 10.57 flat out. Here are some things to remember. 1. No matter what you do, you will not get more people in the stands for Super Class racing. (Unless you run a free beer special for those sitting in the stands while the Super Classes run). 2. If NHRA does make an index change, some racers will have to change some things and spend more money (me included). So be it. It happens. If some choose to step back and quit, that stinks. But again, so be it. It happens. As Steve Cohen said, this is a step in the right direction (unlike Stock & S/Stock). 3. What will changing the names of the classes accomplish? 4. Banning electronics from Super Classes? That seems like a step in the wrong direction (even though Jason Oldfield may disagree). If it's available and affordable - then why not allow it? It makes for closer racing. Just my opinion. (And yes Jason, our closest race is 4.5 hours away. No local tracks close to us either. Check it out, my zip code is 68776). 5. Capping the MPH is an easy idea "on paper" (and not a bad idea), but almost unrealistic (per Chris Williams post). That will never happen. 6. Splitting the 9.90 class into 2 classes (one for door cars and one for roadsters) is a different idea. Let me take that idea one step further and simply allow the Super Gas "roadsters" to race in Top Sportsman. So here's what I voted. Leave everything alone (including the Scotty Rule). And here's why. Super Comp - No need to speed up that class. If they want to go faster, go race Top Dragster. If they do anything, put all the dragsters in one class and dial your own index (No slower than 8.90) and race on whatever tree you want. Super Gas - If there is any class that would warrant a change in index, it would be Super Gas. Do I think it needs one? No. But, this is the class that's the most out of hand. What's the correct remedy? IDK, I guess look at #6 above. Allow the "roadsters" to run in Top Sportsman. BUT, the only way to make that work is to significantly raise the Top Sportsman payout. Otherwise, why would the "roadsters" want to change classes? Super Street - Since I can only run a 10.57 flat out, I say leave it. I'm probably being selfish with this one, but I guess that's my right. Here's to hoping every Super Class racer gets what they want - a safe and healthy 2011 racing season full of many wins. I hope you all have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Thanks, Brad Rose |
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12-09-2010, 04:28 PM | #59 |
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Re: Super class survey
Leave the indexes the way they are....it doesn't matter if you go 190mph or 120mph the only thing that matters is who can light that little light bulb at the end of the race track....correct? You can run 180-190 mph all day long but if you can't put the car on a .90 then there is only place you will be....in the trailer on the way home. If your worried about putting fans in the stands....come on now who are we kidding! We can do away with timers and stops but there still will be nobody in the stands to watch the .90 classes. 90% of the people come to National Events to watch the John Force Circus and if they are in the stands during .90 racing it's because they don't want to lose their seats.
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12-09-2010, 08:20 PM | #60 |
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Re: Super class survey
Well said Rob, I think they should just give us a real 4.00 and 5.00 tree.
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